Strol v. Mentat

[mervinme...@gmail.com]

I just discovered the plugin Mentat. https://thesherwood.github.io/Mentat/   I find the possibilities fascinating.  I am using Stroll for some of my wikis.  At first glance, the two appear to be incompatible.  I was wondering if anybody has done any experimenting with combining these two systems.  What were the results?

Merv

[David Gifford]

Hi Merv,

You could definitely set up the backlink system, relinks and autocomplete from Stroll on Mentat. The two column aspect of Stroll would not work, but then, if you have Mentat, you have a way to arrange your tiddlers, so a second column would be unnecessary. See https://giffmex.org/stroll/stroll.html#Add%20Stroll%20to%20your%20TW for tips on transferring just the backlinks to another file. Blessings.

[Darth Mole]

Hello Merv,

I preface this by saying I didn't design any of the plugins in question, though I have been messing with them a lot recently for my own project.

As David stated you can use the backlink system, relinks, and autocomplete from Stroll with the interface of Mentat.

However, with the current TiddlyWiki version Mentat is very unstable and even if you can bring it under control something as simple as flipping between themes causes it to act up again. I love the concept of Mentat but it definitely needs some love.

This is a link to one of my posts outlining all the steps I took in trying to get Mentat to work (you can also see the final one where I found that switching between themes broke it again): https://groups.google.com/g/tiddlywiki/c/kCSxf7DaXYw/m/gFA9ZTm-AwAJ

Stroll is definitely, at least in my opinion, much more polished and stable, even the two column display which I enjoy immensely! My only wish is that there was a horizontal view option.

Hope this was helpful in some way!

[Ste]

Horizontal....someones done it....looked really good as well, having a brain fart and can't think of the plugin name..hammer.js? by burning tree? hopefully someone with a better memory will be along shortly.

[Ste]

Muuri plugin. That's the one. 

[TiddlyTweeter]

The Mentat Mantra is good ... 

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=EMBb_tPPA8E

"It is by will alone I set my mind in motion ... " 

TT

[Darth Mole]

Thank you so much for pointing out a fantastic plugin I hadn't found yet!

Unfortunately I didn't correctly describe what I was looking for. Your example was indeed a horizontal view option.

However, what I meant was instead of two columns in the story view, have two rows, where once you set the ratio (say 50/50) both will create a scrollbar if needed so you aren't scrolling the entire story view.

Stroll's Shift+Left click option to open a tiddler in the secondary column, plus a two row story view (versus the current two column story view in Stroll), with the top row being set to Zoomin? Oh that type of interface for the project I"m working on just makes me drool so much.

However, I have since transitioned from trying to find the "perfect" interface (which would be based on my opinion) for my project and am now just working on the functionality. I'll let the user decide what interface plugin they want to use based on their own preferences.

Thanks again!