Editor access vs View Access

[Yoni Balkind]

Hi all. I'm new to TW

I would like to use TW as a blog with me as the only editor. I want the controls to be hidden for readers but accessible to me behind a login. 

I went to Control Panel > Appearance > Toolbars > View Toolbar and hid all the buttons in view mode.

But how do I then access the site in edit mode? 

side note - I have quite a lot of questions because I'm new to TW and am not a programmer and i'm finding it a quite a challenge.. What is the preferred modus operandi of this forum? Should I post all of my questions as one post or should I post each question separately?

[PMario]

On Monday, April 20, 2020 at 2:00:33 PM UTC+2, Yoni Balkind wrote:

side note - I have quite a lot of questions because I'm new to TW and am not a programmer and i'm finding it a quite a challenge.. What is the preferred modus operandi of this forum? Should I post all of my questions as one post or should I post each question separately?

Hi Yoni,

Let's say you can "bundle" them in numbers of 3-5 if they belong together. If it's a completely different topic you can create new threads.

A little bit of searching in the group may lead you to existing solutions. .... BUT if they are older than eg: 2 years don't revoke them. ... Create a new one.

You may also keep this link in a "pinned tab" of your browser: https://dynalist.io/d/zUP-nIWu2FFoXH-oM7L7d9DM

see: https://tiddlywiki.com/#%22TiddlyWiki%20Toolmap%22%20by%20David%20Gifford

TW Resources tiddler may contain some useful info too: https://tiddlywiki.com/#Resources

have fun!

mario

[PMario]

Hi,

You can also have a closer look at: https://kookma.github.io/TW-Scripts/ which is a "compiled" knowledge base with links here to the group, for questions Mohammad (also a relatively new - but active - user) and others had. PLUS at least 1 possible solution. ... If not in the wiki click the "Ref:" link in the tiddlers to go to the threads.

-mario

[pedruchini]

Hi Yoni.

I'm just a user and I use the following method:

1) Download an empty TiddlyWiki from https://tiddlywiki.com/#GettingStarted

2) You also need a mechanism to save your wiki. I use Timimi (but there are other ways to save your wiki): https://github.com/ibnishak/Timimi
3) Now you can edit your wiki in your browser (I use Firefox) and save it to your hard drive and use it off-line.

4) But if you want your wiki to be on-line, I think the simplest way is by using http://tiddlyspot.com/

5) To make your wiki readonly you need a plugin from http://tongerner.tiddlyspot.com/#Read-only

6) I edit my wikis with Firefox, buy I upload them to tiddlyspot with Chrome/Chromium after setting a password (sidebar > tools > set password).
I hope I can help you.

Best wishes

Pedro

[pedruchini]

I correct myself: in 6) the password is not necessary since you want to use your wiki as a blog.

[Yoni Balkind]

Thanks for the outline. I'm finding that readonly plugin (step 5 of your outline) a bit confusing. For example it references a ReadOnly ay tiddlywiki.com but I cannot find the theme. Though it might only be mentioning it as an alternate option. Nevertheless the process is a bit unclear and from what I can tell it does not hide all of the controls so as to make the wiki look like a blog.
I think I'll go the static route so I will wait for Anne-Laure tutorial. 

I think that making a site readonly and looking like a blog is an important use-case, should be easier to do and well documented

[Sylvain Naudin]

Le mardi 21 avril 2020 08:17:14 UTC+2, Yoni Balkind a écrit :

Thanks for the outline. I'm finding that readonly plugin (step 5 of your outline) a bit confusing. For example it references a ReadOnly ay tiddlywiki.com but I cannot find the theme. Though it might only be mentioning it as an alternate option. Nevertheless the process is a bit unclear and from what I can tell it does not hide all of the controls so as to make the wiki look like a blog.
I think I'll go the static route so I will wait for Anne-Laure tutorial. 

I think that making a site readonly and looking like a blog is an important use-case, should be easier to do and well documented

Hi,

I think that until now this has not been the primary use of TiddlyWiki users. For the most part I think our favorite notetool is personal and therefore not public.
Static site generators are indeed fashionable, and there are many ways to do this with TW (as there often are).

BJ had proposed something, we can find Ton Gerner's http://tw5readonly.tiddlyspot.com/

Otherwise more recently Jed proposed this: https://ooktech-tw.gitlab.io/plugins/readonlycore/ (see here https://groups.google.com/forum/#!msg/tiddlywiki/EHSH7ll6jcg/Z8BQQiq-CAAJ)

Mohammad also proposed something interesting with modal window.

Personally I use a button to do the work and customize the elements I want, but as it's still a standolone TW, you can always access the engine to take over if you know it's a TW. A true read-only, static, JS-code-free TiddlyWiki loses the meaning of TiddlyWiki on searching, tag browsing, etc. (and because I'm still not comfortable with Node.js)

Cheers,

Sylvain

[Yoni Balkind]

Yeah I do get that my use-case deviates from the original intention. 

But there is a very lively global community emerging right now around note taking and productivity. This is being driven by the likes of Tiago Forte's Building a Second Brain, the note taking app Roam Research, the book How to Take Smart Notes, Andy's super impressive notes page https://notes.andymatuschak.org/, and also Anne-Laure who is active on this group. 

By sheer chance it looks like TW maps quite beautifully to the needs of this community for two different reasons. 
1 - TW looks like it can be an open source version of Roam Research
2 - TW looks like it can allow people to replicate Andy's notes page (my use case)

So fate has presented the TW with what I think is a big opportunity to ride the wave of the above mentioned movement/community. I think if you cater to their needs then TW could explode! Just look at the amount of activity and cult status that Roam Research is getting while still in beta.  

I don't doubt that the above things are possible in TW, but they are fringe cases and as a user trying to do these things it feels like I'm going outside the bounds of what TW is meant for. The experience is cumbersome. I'm just putting forward the idea that maybe these use cases should be considered more central and that they should be made easier, the experience should be streamlined and documented better. But I'm biased because I'm not originally from TW, I come from the above mentioned note-taking / productivity world. 

Its obviously a strategic decision for the TW community as to whether these use case are important and central enough in terms of the TW values.