Tiddlywiki and New Google Group Interface

[Mohammad]

Hi Eric,

The new Google group interface shows the labels (tags) nicely in left sidebar under conversation. See below screenshot. But it seems I cannot add tag (label) to my new posts. Is this a restriction of new interface or Tiddlywiki group policy does not all using this feature? I think letting user to select from a predefined list of labels is helpful for later references as you see in the below screenshot.

[Mohammad]

Sees the image is not shown in previous post see it here.

[Eric Shulman]

On Wednesday, December 16, 2020 at 11:29:03 PM UTC-8 Mohammad wrote:

The new Google group interface shows the labels (tags) nicely in left sidebar under conversation. See below screenshot. But it seems I cannot add tag (label) to my new posts. Is this a restriction of new interface or Tiddlywiki group policy does not all using this feature? I think letting user to select from a predefined list of labels is helpful for later references as you see in the below screenshot.

The list of labels on the left allows you to *view* a subset of conversations that match a specific label.  To *assign* labels to a conversation, there is a separate label icon in the upper right of the page, above the posts.  However, assigning labels is currently limited to only "group owner" and "group moderators", so this icon probably does not appear for regular group members.

If I enable this option for group members, it should then allow anyone to select one or more labels for a given conversation.  However, as we saw in the past, this might produce undesirable results because it also allows people to *create* whatever new labels they want rather than just choosing from the existing labels.  If you recall, I had to go through over 100 different labels to reduce the list to just the most relevant and meaningful ones -- eliminating typos, misspellings, singular vs. plural labels, as well as unique labels that had only been used for one posted message.  If there is a way to allow group members to *select* labels without also allowing them to *create* new labels, then I will enable this setting.  I will discuss this with Jeremy to see what he thinks.

-e

[Mohammad Rahmani]

Thanks Eric - Yes that is correct to limit the choice to a set of predefined labels.

Best wishes

Mohammad

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[TiddlyTweeter]

Eric Shulman wrote:

If there is a way to allow group members to *select* labels without also allowing them to *create* new labels, then I will enable this setting.  I will discuss this with Jeremy to see what he thinks.

I agree. Labels ARE very good if there are NOT too many of them. And new ones only added with collective agreement. This is far better than none. But prior abuse of the system showed it cannot be a free-for-all. That damaged its own aim in past..

Best wishes

TT