I'm looking for a quote

[bimlas]

I’ve read a quote before about programming, but if I remember correctly, I found it about note-taking methods. Does anyone know? Where does this quote come from?

It was similar, if I remember correctly:

"When we start programming, we have to forget what programming is, what a computer is, and that's the only way we can be really creative."

[Mat]

"When we start programming, we have to forget what programming is, what a computer is, and that's the only way we can be really creative."

I am the originator of that quote. The exact quote is:

"When I started programming I forgot what the heck I was doing and where was my computer anyway? To find it behind the sofa I had to be really creative."

<:-)

[bimlas]

I'm sorry, Mat, but that's not what I meant. : D

I'm trying to clarify the quote:

"When I start programming, I forget everything I know about programming. I forget what programming is. I forget what a computer is at all. That's when I get really creative."

(the last sentence may not be in the quote)

[JD]

Sorry to disrupt, but the above quote reminds me of a documentary I saw about the mind of Einstein, and how it was ultimately his creativity that birthed his famous theories. He delved into the relationship of space-time in a way that few other physicists explored at the time, existing as they may already in fiction (though I haven't read any sci-fi published during the 1900s to know if these concepts were actually already in fiction by then). 

These thoughts get me into such a mood, pondering relationships that exist between art and function... function and art... why do proponents of either often dismiss the other? They exist so beautifully together...

[Eric Shulman]

Though it's not the same, many years ago, I wrote:

"The best way to learn how to use TiddlyWiki, is to forget that you don't know how to use TiddlyWiki".

and I'm reminded of this quote from Douglas Adams:

“There is an art to flying, or rather a knack. The knack lies in learning how to throw yourself at the ground and miss.”

(http://www.extremelysmart.com/humor/howtofly.php)

-e

[Florian]

Hi Bimba,

I feel like this is coming from Bret Victor: “The Future of Programming”

https://vimeo.com/71278954

at 31′ 22″

“The most dangerous thought you can have as a creative person is to
think you know what you're doing.”

and at 32′ 22″

“I think the first step is you have to say to yourself: ‘I don't know
what I'm doing. We as a field don't know what we're doing.’ I think
you have to say: ‘We don't know what programming is. We don't know
what computing is. We don't even know what a computer is.’ And once
you truly understand that and once you truly believe that then you're
free and you can think anything.”

See the slides at http://worrydream.com/dbx/

Regards,
Florian

Am 29.08.20 um 12:12 schrieb bimlas:

[soren.b...@gmail.com]

I'm pretty sure Florian has it. And I bet you encountered it one step out from the Zettelkasten bibliography I pointed you to a few weeks ago:

https://zettelkasten.sorenbjornstad.com/#ZettelkastenDetailsTrap

[Florian]

I do remember now that's how I came across the talk as well :)

Thanks for sharing it!

Am 16.09.20 um 02:29 schrieb soren.b...@gmail.com:

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[bimlas]

Florian, Soren,

Yesyesyeyesyes! :D You are both right! Thank you very much!

I was looking for exactly this quote and I saw it right there, I just didn’t remember it!