Volant update: Volant-Rapid Add-on Announcement

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admls

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Mar 25, 2019, 1:59:22 PM3/25/19
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Hi Everybody,

Per Mohammad's request, I've added the ability for volant tiddlers to snap to the edges. Simply move position the tiddler so that it overlaps an edge of the screen. I thought this was an interesting idea when Mohammad suggested it but wasn't prepared for just how much I would like it.

The Volant-Rapid add-on will probably see some development in the future. But for now, even the simple implementation is pretty handy.

And the demo is here: https://admls.github.io/Mentat/

Best wishes,

Adam (admls)

Mohammad

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Mar 25, 2019, 3:38:39 PM3/25/19
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Many thanks admls! This is really amazing!
This plugin really gives wings to Tiddlywiki!
Snap feature make Tiddlywiki more productive on Desktop and large screen. 
I am sure many people find this feature very handy and useful!


Cheers
Mohammad

Julio Peña

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Mar 25, 2019, 4:36:02 PM3/25/19
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Hello all,

All I can say is wow!
Great work Admis.

Best regards,

Julio

Jan

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Mar 25, 2019, 7:14:32 PM3/25/19
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Hi admls.

Snap to Grid is a nice idea, but I also like the idea of piling up windows.
The snapmechanism causes an error when dragging corners out of the window
(Uncaught TypeError: Cannot read property '0' of undefined )
and sometimes it seems to cause the windows to jump around quite wild.
I would rather be able to turn this off and have more space instead...

I am still thinking about where to attack in order to modify your great invention into what I want.
I think I would love to have a parallel workspace in a extra window (or in a div replacing the storyview) where I can arrange tiddlers like on a pin because I think this could make it easier to have a remotelike interaction between the two and store different pinnboards.
I made a storyeditor szen.io/szenen(There you can see that the board opens in a different window) for TW which works a like RIZ' Tekan Project. (https://ibnishak.github.io/Tesseract/projects/tekan/Tekan.html) The collections of tiddlers there are based on lists instead of tags, which makes it easier to store different Layouts... especially for pinboards this would be extremely useful.

I know, this is an entirely different approach...but I hope the structure you created could serve this purpose...


So thanks again,
Jan
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admls

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Mar 25, 2019, 7:36:36 PM3/25/19
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Hi Mohammad,

I hope it works well for you!

Hi Julio,

Thank you! There will likely continue to be changes to these plugins for a while. So I hope that doesn't end up being too disruptive.

Hi Jan,

The snapmechanism causes an error when dragging corners out of the window

Good catch. I should have that fixed for the next release.

and sometimes it seems to cause the windows to jump around quite wild.
I would rather be able to turn this off and have more space instead...

The Volant-Rapid plugin can be disabled. Just make sure to refresh your browser afterward!

Best wishes,

admls


Mohammad

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Mar 26, 2019, 1:44:26 AM3/26/19
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Hi admls,

I cannot reproduce the JS red window error when snap to side and corner! Checking in several browser Volant works like a charm!

I think snap to grid is crucial when Tiddlywiki is used for production.

I only experienced JS red window error if left or right border cross the the other one, means when you try to make widow width zero!
I think this should not be that difficult to be resolved!

By the way, I appreciate all your efforts and I encourage you to ask Jeremy to distribute Mentat as an official plugin and partly merge into the core!


--Mohammad 

Mohammad

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Mar 26, 2019, 3:01:18 AM3/26/19
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When you double clicked anything inside a window, a new tiddler is created with the below title:
$:/plugins/admls/volant-rapid/ui/rapid-menu-popup



Mohammad

Mohammad

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Mar 26, 2019, 3:27:02 AM3/26/19
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When a lot number of tiddlers in a window, it seems the window title bar cannot handles them correctly! 
a. It seems title bar can show fixed number of titles
b. titles cannot be read, because when number of titles increases, the width start decreasing and you cannot read the titles! This may be okay, but one expects to be able to read the active title
c. I suggest to be able to scroll from left to right and vice versa!

Mohammad 

admls

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Mar 26, 2019, 4:47:27 AM3/26/19
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Hi Jan,

I think I may have misunderstood about the snapping issue. I thought you were referring to snapping to the edges of the viewport but it seems like you are referring to the snap-to-grid native to the Volant plugin. If you want to turn off the snapping to grid, go to the Volant config menu and enter 0 in the boxes that talk about grid-size (and maybe also grid-gap).

Hi Mohammad,

I only experienced JS red window error if left or right border cross the the other one, means when you try to make widow width zero!
I think this should not be that difficult to be resolved!

I think I've got those errors resolved now. Should be out for the next release.

When you double clicked anything inside a window, a new tiddler is created with the below title:
$:/plugins/admls/volant-rapid/ui/rapid-menu-popup

This is something I've been experimenting with but is far from ready for release. I thought I'd taken it out, but I guess I missed a tiddler or two. The next release will expunge it. Thanks for raising the issue on github!

When a lot number of tiddlers in a window, it seems the window title bar cannot handles them correctly!

 From a performance standpoint, I would recommend not having too many open at once or setting the default storyview inside of window tiddlers to 'zoomin'. You can do that in the Mentat config menu. That said, maybe your machine handles it just fine. I think you're probably right that a scrolling window tab bar would be better. I'm a little bit concerned with how it will affect dragging and dropping the tabs, but I'll experiment with it. Again, thanks for raising it on github!

Best wishes,

admls

@TiddlyTweeter

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Mar 26, 2019, 3:22:21 PM3/26/19
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I have an interesting situation that is interesting.

Windows 10 pure touchscreen tablet + keyboard + mouse. Yeah. I have too much money. 

I tested the 3 combos of tablet only, + keys + mouse.

But my point is in all modes, in all combos, your gizmo functions. Good news!

admls

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Mar 26, 2019, 3:36:59 PM3/26/19
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Hi @TiddlyTweeter,

But my point is in all modes, in all combos, your gizmo functions. Good news!

That is good news! Though, perhaps we should amend that to: "... your gizmo functions... for the time being." As I'll no doubt break everything as the lot of plugins go on changing and developing!

I'm glad you're getting some use out of it!

Best wishes,

admls
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