[POLL] What does the community think about the new diff plugin?

[BurningTreeC]

Hello community,

there's a new plugin on the TiddlyWiki prerelease page (link) that visually shows the differences of what you added and deleted while editing a tiddler in the preview panel

one can switch the colored diff preview on/off inside the preview dropdown (beneath the eye button)

Here's the github commit: https://github.com/Jermolene/TiddlyWiki5/pull/3112

As one can read there, it's not settled if this makes it into the TiddlyWiki core, adding ~30kb to the empty html, or if it will be available as a TiddlyWiki plugin

I thought it would be interesting to see what the community thinks about it

So here's an anonymous poll:

https://goo.gl/forms/Oh2a3Fhx9dUSttWA2

BTC

[Diego Mesa]

I for one am a HUGE fan of this! I would love to see the storing of the diffs become tiddler version history.!

What a time to be in TW! 

On Sunday, February 11, 2018 at 10:40:46 PM UTC-6, BurningTreeC wrote:

Hello community,

there's a new plugin on the TiddlyWiki prerelease page (link) that visually shows the differences of what you added and deleted while editing a tiddler in the preview panel

[Riz]

I for one, have voted against adding it to the core. Please understand that while I genuinely understand and appreciate the value of such a work, it should not be imposed upon people who do not want it. Such a addition is useful to a developer, rather than a common user.

IMHO, the existing core itself should be split further into smaller plugins, so the end user can have more freedom to pick and choose, while offering a pre-built empty edition to the beginners. That is to say, the no-vote is not a vote against the work, rather a reflection of my viewpoint.

regards
Riz

[BurningTreeC]

Hi Diego,

I ALSO think, it is great!

I can also understand the point that it could or should be a user-choice to add it or not..

for me it's a yes, I want it for every wiki

BTC

[BurningTreeC]

Hi Riz,

I think the most exciting thing is just being able to use it - so the question if core or plugin is not that important to me personally

Though it's interesting to gather more points of view

BTC

[PMario]

On Monday, 12 February 2018 09:39:53 UTC+1, BurningTreeC wrote:

... I want it for every wiki

Hi,
I want it for every of my wikis too. But as a plugin. Because other devs may use other libraries, that do the same thing, which may cause conflicts.

I personally wanted to use the same library for an un-released beaker-adapter-plugin, using all the diff - match - patch functions. If the stuff is part of the core, we are basically locked in.

just my thoughts
mario

[@TiddlyTweeter]

As a PLUGIN.

Not least because as a plugin the developer is freer to expand boundaries in a way that a coreist addition should not.

Keep core as light as possible.

BTW, this tread is now related to: https://groups.google.com/forum/?hl=en-GB&pli=1#!topic/tiddlywiki/fxLtI4igpfY that takes the idea in good ways.

Josiah

[Furicle]

I'm glad to see the poll results are so stunningly conclusive...



:-)



FWIW, I'd rather it was core, and turned on, with an option to disable/enable.

I think it's not something a non-programmer would think to go look for, or even grasp the utility of,  but would find it useful if it was "shoved under their nose" so to speak.

[BurningTreeC]

I'm glad to see the poll results are so stunningly conclusive...

:D me too!

:-)



FWIW, I'd rather it was core, and turned on, with an option to disable/enable.

I think it's not something a non-programmer would think to go look for, or even grasp the utility of,  but would find it useful if it was "shoved under their nose" so to speak.

I think it's really good for non-programmers (and programmers alike) who are making adventures into core tiddlers to be able to check before "oh what have I done"

 

[BurningTreeC]

It could also be a nice game:

Make all red stuff green again, you have 30 seconds

[Furicle]

Speaking as a part time sysadmin, that's a vocation, not a game....

[Tristan Kohl]

I voted for it being not part of the core for the reason to keep the core as slim as possible. This makes TW run as fast as possible from the beginning and one can add new features (plugins) if need be. For simple note taking for example I could not imagine myself using this as it is a "write and forget" kind of workflow. In this case another bucket of code would just increase the load on my mobile devices (desktop has enough horse power) for no added benefit.

On the other side if I am about to tweak something in my test-wiki which I personally only do on my desktop I would love to have such a little helper to find out where I might screw things up. So I think the diff plugin as all the other little helpers that are not absolutely necessary for TW to run should be plugins which the user is free to add at their own discretion.

Cheers,
Tristan

[wjam]

hi
at twjam5beta.tiddlyspot.com

you can download a working version with many extra features :)

kr
wjam

[BurningTreeC]

Hi @wjam

That's cool, I've seen your plugin before!
It's very feature-packed and an alternative for me if I need more than what the tw diff offers

Thank you very much for sharing!

BTC

[@TiddlyTweeter]

Seriously wjam

I think it may be worth posting news of your plugin again with a Much Stronger Headline :-)

Three times over the last week I know of issues that came up where your new plugin would be relevant & writers were unaware of your new plugin.

Need for VERSIONING is definitely in the air right now.

Best wishes
Josiah

[Diego Mesa]

I strongly agree wjam. I first didnt inspect much because it just looked a little complicated - I spent 30 seconds on it and didnt get the workflow right away so I left it, but your plugin is amazing!