Popout Tiddlers/View?

[Darth Mole]

Hello all,

It's me again. I wanted to thank those that helped on my previous post regarding conditional templates! I have what I think is another strange question, though I'm not sure if it is unique. I came across some vaguely similar concepts but didn't hit anything true.

I would also like to preface this post with: I may be making things harder on myself. I have been trying to create a world building application that is considered not only open source but can be opened no matter what in the future since TiddlyWiki is simply an HTML file. Unless browsers go the way of the dodo TiddlyWikis will always be viewable and even if they do you can look at the code to at least see the content. Anyway, back to my question.

Whenever I start working in TiddlyWiki my mind begins to branch out from a particular Tiddler and kind creates a "view" that I'm unfortunately unable to follow in TiddlyWiki's default format. Even with using TiddlyStroll (I also added TiddlyMap to the TiddlyStroll template) I still can't seem to feel comfortable with things.

When I try to conceptualize the situation two "views" appear in my head.

1) The Tiddlers, when loaded, become floating popouts that can be moved around the computer screen just like regular app windows. That way as new Tiddlers are opened based on the users train of thought they just layer on the screen. I guess kind of like if you had 15 Word documents open in 15 Word app instances so you could see the title and bits and pieces of each one.

2) The Tiddlers, when loaded, start to fill in the page similar to a tiling windows manager in Linux. Even if the boxes get progressively smaller as they resize during tiling or if once they hit a certain number of boxes the whole view simply shrinks percentage wise I guess it doesn't matter.

Anyway, any thoughts or solutions? Thanks again for all your help! Once I feel comfortable with the solution I've put together I'm going to post for anyone to use as a world building option, and also use it myself for my writing. 

[Ste]

How about https://thesherwood.github.io/Mentat/

[Darth Mole]

YOU ARE EPIC! To you I offer AWESOMESAUCE for the rest of your life! ZOMG!

-cough- ahem, excuse me.

Oh who am I kidding?! YOU ROCK!!!

[Darth Mole]

You are still epic, however, it looks like something breaks in newer TiddlyWiki versions. At least that is how it looks to me regarding trying to delete drafts and saving edits to existing Tiddlers. Not sure what is the major difference between the two TiddlyWiki versions so that has me a little worried, however, things seems to be ok otherwise.

[Joshua Fontany]

Thank you Ste. Yes, definitely want the Mentat plugin for that view. I also am using TW to build a Worldbuilding Application (GMGuild), and updating Mentat is one of the primary UI priorities. I would recommend using the older versions of TW to use Mentat. I am still working on the back-end collaberative stuff, but it is awesome to see more Worldbuilding/Campaign-Management interest in the TW community recently.

Have you joined the TW Discord server? We have a channel dedicated to tw-for-gaming stuff.

Best,
Joshua Fontany

[Darth Mole]

Awesome! I ended up turning off the Engine plug-in regarding Mentat and that fixed a lot of the issues. Also, I posted what I've put together so far here: https://groups.google.com/g/tiddlywiki/c/kCSxf7DaXYw

There are some replies regarding a more up-to-date Stroll. 

I haven't joined the Discord server but definitely will. I know there are apps out there that are for self-hosted world building, I just didn't like the idea they were proprietary and I would be screwed if development on the applications ever stopped.

I also like cloud solutions for certain projects and world building/writing is one of them lol.

Thanks again!