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Peter Buyze

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Apr 19, 2020, 7:55:59 AM4/19/20
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I want to create a shortcut to close a tiddler so I don't have to click on its X.
so I created a tiddler called "my-shortcut" - see http://peterjb.tiddlyspot.com/.

In the instructions it says to "append a unique suffix" like my-shortcut . The Title box is not the right place because my tiddler does not occur in the Control Panel in the shortcut list, and I have not been able to find where I should append the suffix.

Please advise.

Birthe C

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Apr 19, 2020, 8:32:19 AM4/19/20
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Peter,

I cannot find you tiddler at http://peterjb.tiddlyspot.com

But you can use:
Ctrl+Enter Saves
Esccancel editing

Birthe

Peter Buyze

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Apr 19, 2020, 9:07:40 AM4/19/20
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Birthe, I tried again. Can you see it now?



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Birthe C

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Apr 19, 2020, 9:16:28 AM4/19/20
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Peter,

Sorry but no. Did you remember to insert the password before saving. After saving refresh the wiki and check that you can find your tiddler. Also it would be a good idea to delete tiddler Change passwword.


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Peter Buyze

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Apr 19, 2020, 9:23:32 AM4/19/20
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I deleted tiddler, changed password, reimported tiddler, saved.

Better now?

19 Apr 2020, 16:16 by strikke...@gmail.com:
Peter,

Sorry but no. Did you remember to insert the password before saving. After saving refresh the wiki and check that you can find your tiddler. Also it would be a good idea to delete tiddler Change passwword.


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Birthe C

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Apr 19, 2020, 10:14:40 AM4/19/20
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Peter,

This i strange! I can not see any changes- I wonder because I have very seldom had any problems with tiddlyspot.


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Peter Buyze

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Apr 19, 2020, 10:22:19 AM4/19/20
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OK, tell me what I do wrong.

  • I exported the tiddler as a .tid file
  • I go to tiddlyspot - see screenshot
  • following your instructions I went to the link in the upper tiddler (Change password) to change password
  • I get back to this page
  • I import the tiddler by drag & drop onto the tiddlyspot page
  • it pops up a table showing the file to be imported so I click on the "import" button
  • I then click on the red tick in the right hand sidepane
  • it asks in which directory I would like to save it, which seems strange to me because it should save it on the tiddlyspot server. Anyway I choose a directory on my computer and save. After that the red tick in the right hand sidepane has turned gry.


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Birthe C

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Apr 19, 2020, 10:41:59 AM4/19/20
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Peter,

I really don't know. But the upper tiddler named Change password, follow the link. Enter in the box there (I think you have done that before, because initially when i created the site, I used password and that saved. I really do hope you remember the password you have entered.
If you succeed in doing that. You must go to your wikis control panel also to enter your new password to be able to save. Forget the tiddlers shown. Delete the upper and close the bottom one. Now try if you are able to save.
If you are able to save drag and drop you tiddler to your spot and save. After having saved - you should not have any error messages - because then it will not get saved. Refresh the wiki and you will have you tiddler still - if it is not there, it did not save.

If it does not save, I think yoiu should create a new tiddlyspot.

Birthe

søndag den 19. april .2020 kl. 16.22.19 UTC+2 skrev Peter Buyze:
OK, tell me what I do wrong.erid file
  • I go to tiddlyspot - see screenshot
  • following your instructions I went to the link in the upper tiddler (Change password) to change password
  • I get back to this page
  • I import the tiddler by drag & drop onto the tiddlyspot page
  • it pops up a table showing the file to be imported so I click on the "import" button
  • I then click on the red tick in the right hand sidepane
  • it asks in which directory I would like to save it, which seems strange to me because it should save it on the tiddlyspot server. Anyway I choose a directory on my computer and save. After that the red tick in the right hand sidepane has turned gry.


19 Apr 2020, 17:14 by strikk...@gmail.com:
Peter,

This i strange! I can not see any changes- I wonder because I have very seldom had any problems with tiddlyspot.


Birthe


søndag den 19. april 2020 kl. 15.23.32 UTC+2 skrev Peter Buyze:
I deleted tiddler, changed password, reimported tiddler, saved.

Better now?


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Mat

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Apr 19, 2020, 11:04:04 AM4/19/20
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You don't need to export anything and you don't need to dragndrop anything IF you want ALL your tiddlers to be uploaded to your tiddlyspot.

If you only want certain tiddlers to be uploaded you do, indeed, export or dragndrop tiddlers onto the peterjb.tiddlyspot.com site.

Saving to tiddlyspot, or saving the tiddlyspot, is simply to click the circled tick button ...BUT first you must SET the password for it like so:

In your wiki where you have made changes, go to Controlpanel > Saving > Tiddlyspot
fill in your username, i.e "peterjb"
and your password

Then klick the red circled tickmark. 

This uploads the current wiki (with all its tiddlers) to overwrite the wiki that is on tiddlyspot. This is how you do it regardless if your wiki is a local file that you upload to tiddlyspot or if you are working directly on tiddlyspot

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Do not have a tiddler that shows your password. Especially now that we all know your url :-)

You can change your tiddlyspot password here:  http://peterjb.tiddlyspot.com/controlpanel


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Mat

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Apr 19, 2020, 11:05:35 AM4/19/20
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  • it asks in which directory I would like to save it, which seems strange to me because it should save it on the tiddlyspot server. Anyway I choose a directory on my computer and save. After that the red tick in the right hand sidepane has turned gry.

If it asks which directory, then this means you're asked where to save it LOCALLY on your computer. This is a clear indication that you didn't set the username or password.

<:-)

Peter Buyze

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Apr 19, 2020, 11:28:18 AM4/19/20
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Mat, Birthe,

I have had it with Tiddlyspot. I cannot get it to work anymore, which is in all probability due to my stupidity.

I did as you said Mat, via the Control Panel. But when I put in my password (saved in my password manager that never fails me), it tells me the password is wrong.

I then went to a new Tiddlyspot account I had created, and before getting into the CP you have to change your original password. But when I input the old password and twice the new one it tells me my old password is wrong !!! Arghhh.

So, let's close this issue. I will live without my shortcut. I will only ask questions here if no tiddler is required. I am truly sorry, but I don't see any other way.

19 Apr 2020, 18:05 by matia...@gmail.com:
  • it asks in which directory I would like to save it, which seems strange to me because it should save it on the tiddlyspot server. Anyway I choose a directory on my computer and save. After that the red tick in the right hand sidepane has turned gry.

If it asks which directory, then this means you're asked where to save it LOCALLY on your computer. This is a clear indication that you didn't set the username or password.

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Birthe C

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Apr 19, 2020, 11:39:42 AM4/19/20
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Peter,

When you created a new Tiddlyspot account, I do not understand why you had to change the password. Use the one you wrote, when you set up your account.

I am sorry if you are giving up. Tiddlyspot is simply wonderful.

Birthe

Peter Buyze

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Apr 19, 2020, 11:50:23 AM4/19/20
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Birthe, in the new account I created I got to the Welcome page - see 1st screenshot.

You can see a link to the CP in small writing there. When I click on that I get to the next page - 2nd screenshot, and on that page there is no save button, other than the "update" button next to "confirm new password", which to me suggests I have to change password 1st.

In my "old" account I did get throiugh to the page as Mat described, but then I get that pop-up I mentioned.

I realise TS is a wonderful site, but not for a simpleton like me. Like Mat said in another thread, his old aunt could even handle TS, which goes to show how low I am on the intelligence scale. Joking aside, I don't know why I cannot get it to work but I have been at it for hours and am at my wits' end.

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Mat

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Apr 19, 2020, 12:13:46 PM4/19/20
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OK, Peter, you've not gone through the http://tiddlywiki5.tiddlyspot.com/ site (alternatively, you didn't follow the instructions there) so you have set up an old version (TiddlyWiki Classic) on your site.

To load your site with a TW5, I suggest you go to http://tiddlywiki5.tiddlyspot.com/ but skip step 1 and go straight to step 2 there. This will upload a TW5 onto your new tiddlyspot. 

<:-)

Birthe C

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Apr 19, 2020, 12:28:41 PM4/19/20
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Peter and Mat,

I just set up a new tiddlyspot. I had problems using Firefox, so I had to use Chromium. That worked.

@Peter, what browser are you using?
if you want to upload a local tw to your tiddlyspot you will need to use Chrome or Chromium,

@Mat, I did not go to the new spot, but got the old classic anyway. I did succeed using step 2 to upload to the new tiddlyspot. I had to try several times though.
I cannot remember having had so much fuss before. New browsers=

Birthe

Peter Buyze

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Apr 19, 2020, 12:34:43 PM4/19/20
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Birthe, believe it or not but have been using Chromium !! I gave up using FF quite a while ago.

I tried again both my accounts but the same error message pops up. I'll try again tomorrow.



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Mat

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Apr 19, 2020, 12:44:45 PM4/19/20
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Birthe C wrote:
I just set up a new tiddlyspot. I had problems using Firefox, so I had to use Chromium. That worked.

A main idea to use http://tiddlywiki5.tiddlyspot.com/ is to avoid the problems that can come up when using certain browsers going directly via tiddlyspot.com.
 
@Mat, I did not go to the new spot, but got the old classic anyway. I did succeed using step 2 to upload to the new tiddlyspot. I had to try several times though.
 
I'm not sure what "not go to the new spot" means - are you saying that you did go via http://tiddlywiki5.tiddlyspot.com/ - and completed all steps - and still didn't get a TW5 at first? When you did step 2 you get the upper left yellow "saving.... saved" messages? Or is that what was problematic?

I can revert back so http://tiddlywiki5.tiddlyspot.com/ uses TW5.1.21 if we think there's a problem with the saver.

<:-)

Birthe C

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Apr 19, 2020, 12:47:54 PM4/19/20
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Peter,

If  you want you can send me a private mail with your spot name and password, then I will try and we will find out if it is due to misunderstanding or just something else.

Birthe

søndag den 19. april 2020 kl. 18.34.43 UTC+2 skrev Peter Buyze:
Birthe, believe it or not but have been using Chromium !! I gave up using FF quite a while ago.

I tried again both my accounts but the same error message pops up. I'll try again tomorrow.



19 Apr 2020, 19:28 by strikk...@gmail.com:
Peter and Mat,

I just set up a new tiddlyspot. I had problems using Firefox, so I had to use Chromium. That worked.

@Peter, what browser are you using?
if you want to upload a local tw to your tiddlyspot you will need to use Chrome or Chromium,

@Mat, I did not go to the new spot, but got the old classic anyway. I did succeed using step 2 to upload to the new tiddlyspot. I had to try several times though.
I cannot remember having had so much fuss before. New browsers=

Birthe

søndag den 19. april 2020 kl. 18.13.46 UTC+2 skrev Mat:
OK, Peter, you've not gone through the http://tiddlywiki5.tiddlyspot.com/ site (alternatively, you didn't follow the instructions there) so you have set up an old version (TiddlyWiki Classic) on your site.

To load your site with a TW5, I suggest you go to http://tiddlywiki5.tiddlyspot.com/ but skip step 1 and go straight to step 2 there. This will upload a TW5 onto your new tiddlyspot. 

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Peter Buyze

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Apr 19, 2020, 12:49:29 PM4/19/20
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The odd thing I observed is that the tiddler that I managed to save a few days ago successfully and that Birthe was able to see, was not there today.


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Birthe C

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Apr 19, 2020, 12:55:19 PM4/19/20
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Mat,

I did use http:/tiddlywiki5.tiddlyspot.com First step went okay, but 2 step did not work. That is when I gave up on Firefox opened chromium and http://tiddlywiki5.tiddlyspot.com to finish the job. That went okay .....third time I tried.

No I do no think you should revert version. It works  well enough if using Chromium from the start.

Birthe

Peter Buyze

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Apr 19, 2020, 1:05:35 PM4/19/20
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Birthe, done !!

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Mat

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Apr 19, 2020, 1:06:55 PM4/19/20
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Peter Buyze wrote:
The odd thing I observed is that the tiddler that I managed to save a few days ago successfully and that Birthe was able to see, was not there today.

You can see the save history by going to  YOURSITE.tiddlyspot.com/backup

There you can open old saves and see if/when it was actually there.

That said; you did publish your password...

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Peter Buyze

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Apr 19, 2020, 1:08:53 PM4/19/20
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I published my password? Oh dear, that was unintentional. Goes to show the site is beyond me.
I'll have to sharpen up.


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Birthe C

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Apr 19, 2020, 2:14:50 PM4/19/20
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Peter,

That is humor, how could you show something that did not work on http://peterjb.tiddlyspot.com?

Birthe

søndag den 19. april 2020 kl. 19.08.53 UTC+2 skrev Peter Buyze:
I published my password? Oh dear, that was unintentional. Goes to show the site is beyond me.
I'll have to sharpen up.


19 Apr 2020, 20:06 by matia...@gmail.com:
Peter Buyze wrote:
The odd thing I observed is that the tiddler that I managed to save a few days ago successfully and that Birthe was able to see, was not there today.

You can see the save history by going to  YOURSITE.tiddlyspot.com/backup

There you can open old saves and see if/when it was actually there.

That said; you did publish your password...

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Birthe C

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Apr 19, 2020, 11:51:24 PM4/19/20
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Peter,

i do see your tiddler My-shortcut, tag $:/config/ShortcutInfo/ and a field tmap.id nothing else.
As for the shortcut you wanted, remember that Mac, Windows and Linux do not always agree. You can add that in control panel - Keyboard Shortcuts if you know the differences.

You wanted to create a shortcut to close a tiddler so you don't have to click on its X.
You do not need a new shortcut for that just press Esc.

Birthe

Peter Buyze

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Apr 20, 2020, 1:25:53 AM4/20/20
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Birthe, I tried the ESC route, but it does not work.

About the tiddler you say "you can add that in the control panel": from what I understand the tiddler is supposed to show up in the keyboard shortcuts list in the CP automatically. But the tiddler just with the $:/config/ShortcutInfo/ tag it does not show up in the list. What am I missing?


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Birthe C

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Apr 20, 2020, 1:57:49 AM4/20/20
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Peter,


Esc works for me, using linux. Maybe Mac is different?

Birthe

Peter Buyze

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Apr 20, 2020, 2:16:40 AM4/20/20
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Birthe, thanks for that link. I was able to get my shortcut listed in the CP. However, step 7 in that link is a macro (?) that is applicable for creating a new tiddler, i.e. nit applicable for my case.

Currently there is no text, i.e. no macro, in my text area, so the shortcut does not work. I have added my tiddler to Tiddlyspot, it's entitled Close-tiddler-shortcut.



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Birthe C

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Apr 20, 2020, 2:26:14 AM4/20/20
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Peter,

I found out that the Esc is for closing a tiddler in edit mode. You want to close a tiddler in viewmode. Problem being, that how can your wiki know what tiddler you are viewing.

Birthe

Peter Buyze

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Apr 20, 2020, 3:26:24 AM4/20/20
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Very good point about the View mode closing, Birthe. That means what I want is not realistic. I'll just stick with clicking the X. Not a problem.
Thanks for thinking with me, sorry, for me ;-)


20 Apr 2020, 09:26 by strikke...@gmail.com:
Peter,

I found out that the Esc is for closing a tiddler in edit mode. You want to close a tiddler in viewmode. Problem being, that how can your wiki know what tiddler you are viewing.

Birthe


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Birthe C

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Apr 20, 2020, 4:14:05 AM4/20/20
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Peter,
If as in TiddlyBlink you are using story view zooming, you could create a tiddler $:/config/EmptyStoryMessage content 
{{Tiddlername||$:/core/ui/ViewTemplate}}.
When the story is empty this tiddler will be shown.
If this is the case you could use a shortcut for close all.

To be honest i get tired just thinking about it ;-)

Birthe


Peter Buyze

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Apr 20, 2020, 4:17:18 AM4/20/20
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Birthe, thanks for the suggestion. I agree it isn't worth spending effort on. I have enabled the button "close all" for when I have a number of tiddlers open, and that is sufficient. If there is just 1 tiddler open I'll click the X. Either way, I am condemned to at least 1 click, and that's OK.


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Jeremy Ruston

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Apr 20, 2020, 7:04:36 AM4/20/20
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Hi Peter

I want to create a shortcut to close a tiddler so I don't have to click on its X.

The problem here is that we don’t have a means of focussing a tiddler in view mode so that the system knows which tiddler to close. (In edit mode the ctrl-enter and escape shortcuts know where to go because the keyboard focus is always within a particular tiddler). It’s a long-standing shortcoming that we have plans to fix but not imminently.

Best wishes

Jeremy.

so I created a tiddler called "my-shortcut" - see http://peterjb.tiddlyspot.com/.

In the instructions it says to "append a unique suffix" like my-shortcut . The Title box is not the right place because my tiddler does not occur in the Control Panel in the shortcut list, and I have not been able to find where I should append the suffix.

Please advise.


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Peter Buyze

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Apr 20, 2020, 7:24:03 AM4/20/20
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Thanks for clearing that up Jeremy. I look forward to the implementation of that, although you probably have more urgent, and more interesting features to implement.
Thanks for a useful app!



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Jeremy Ruston

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Hi Peter

On 20 Apr 2020, at 12:23, 'Peter Buyze' via TiddlyWiki <tiddl...@googlegroups.com> wrote:

Thanks for clearing that up Jeremy. I look forward to the implementation of that, although you probably have more urgent, and more interesting features to implement.
Thanks for a useful app!

Thank you! And welcome to the group. Questions are the lifeblood of this group and it’s great when new users are not afraid to post, and we appreciate the insights into the newcomers perspective.

Best wishes

Jeremy.

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