Hosting TW on a raspberry pi server access via android phone?

[Stefan Pfister]

Hi folks,

i have a raspberry pi nas server up and running with the image nextcloudpi. That means nextcloud is running and accessible over web. How can I host a tiddlywiki-file on this server? With the ability to save? Tried to look up webdav. But I don't find a solution for a beginner like me. I want to use my TW-File on my android phone.

On the desktop there is tiddly-desktop, on ios there is quine, but on android there is only the buggy and outdated andtidwiki. It's really unuseable. I wonder if there is  a possible solution with my own server,.

I need a little help. Every idea is welcome.

Greetings

Stefan

[Mark S.]

Have you looked at Bob ? Search the forum or https://github.com/OokTech/TW5-Bob

I'm pretty sure Jed said one of the reasons for developing Bob was that it put less strain on his Raspberry pi server.

Good luck!

-- Mark

[Ste Wilson]

I've successfully had a tiddlywiki running on bob and served over the Internet. Set up a dns on https://freedns.afraid.org and followed set up instructions on bob!

[TonyM]

Stefan,

I cant agree with "on android there is only the buggy and outdated andtidwiki" because you can use Termux and then any nodeJS based TiddlyWiki and Noteself also works well. 

I am just setting the record strait for any future readers of this thread.

I think that being able to deliver TiddlyWiki on raspberry pi in an easy package could do a lot to promote TiddlyWiki to the maker and education sectors. We could build a suitable edition that also supports common activities on a "raspberry pi".

Regards

Tony

[PMario]

Hi Stefan,

I did have a closer look at WebDav possibilities with nextcloud. .. The problem here is, that they do support WebDav to connect other computers as a "remote harddisk". .. BUT they don't serve HTML TWs which uses PUT commands, to save back changes, for security reasons.

-m

[Stefan Pfister]

Thanks, but what is bob? Do you have a link?

Ste Wilson <stew...@gmail.com> schrieb am Di. 13. Nov. 2018 um 18:23:

I've successfully had a tiddlywiki running on bob and served over the Internet. Set up a dns on https://freedns.afraid.org and followed set up instructions on bob!

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[Stefan Pfister]

That would be fine. :) 

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[Ste Wilson]

Mark linked to it the second post of this thread :)

[@TiddlyTweeter]

Kudos you earned dreadlocks. Timid me needs assurances that I'm not initiating a vorple sword that will eat my server.

In brief, I need to see a bit more DETAIL about how to do this safely.

J, x

[Ste Wilson]

The vorpal blade went snicker-snack!
He left it dead, and with its head
He went galumphing back....

Not sure really about how cast ironly secure it is... But it's the only thing on my pi and I have it backed up so..

I had to forward the bob broadcast port to port 80 on the router and then the dns server points http://stephenteacher.uk.to to my hope ip.

And no one but me looks at it! :)

[Stefan Pfister]

Nice, I'm using nextcloud with dynamic dns on my raspinas. Do you have any tipps or links for the installation on the raspi in combination with nextcloud? Installation in a subfolder maybe?

Thanks, I'm no network expert.

[Stefan Pfister]

My problem is: There is still nextcloud working and listening. How can I integrate a tiddlywiki with bob in this nexcloud installation on the raspi?

Am Do., 22. Nov. 2018 um 08:46 Uhr schrieb Stefan Pfister <stepfis...@gmail.com>:

Nice, I'm using  nextcloud with dynamic dns on my raspinas. Do you have any tipps or links for the installation on the raspi in combination with nextcloud? Installation in a subfolder maybe?

Thanks, I'm no network expert.

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[Stefan Pfister]

Strange behavior: Sorry my fault. I haven't found the post of Mark. It wasn't in gmail. I see it only online in google groups. Thanks to all of you.

Am Mi., 14. Nov. 2018 um 09:34 Uhr schrieb Ste Wilson <stew...@gmail.com>:

Mark linked to it the second post of this thread :)

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[Lost Admin]

Pardon my late question, but is there something wrong with using the TiddlyWiki builtin WebDav saver? If I read the Nextcloud documentation correctly, it has WebDav support and Tiddlywiki saves to webdav pretty well.

[PMario]

On Thursday, November 22, 2018 at 3:12:01 PM UTC+1, Lost Admin wrote:

Pardon my late question, but is there something wrong with using the TiddlyWiki builtin WebDav saver? If I read the Nextcloud documentation correctly, it has WebDav support and Tiddlywiki saves to webdav pretty well.

There is nothing wrong wit the TW WedDav saver. ... BUT as I wrote nextcloud doesn't allow PUT saves for security reasons. You'll need to read the nextcloud docs.

-m

[PMario]

uups,

I did have a closer look again at: https://docs.nextcloud.com/server/12/developer_manual/client_apis/WebDAV/index.html ... There seems to be a possibility to use it, BUT the mechanism described, is not the one we use atm.

-m

[PMario]

@Lost Admin

Could you configure nextcloud 12, in a way, that you can server TWs with it, from a WebDav directory? ... I did look at version 10 and it wasn't possible. So I didn't do any further investigations with saving.

-m

[Lost Admin]

Ah! Thanks. 

Seriously after reading this thread I was considering installing NextCloud to get a few more features than running jsut Apache mod_dav. Now I know not to do that.

[PMario]

Hi,

Seafile.com may be an option. There is a report, that it allows serving TWs and saving them back. The only think needed is to activate WebDav, since it is OFF by default.

https://www.seafile.com/en/home/

https://www.seafile.com/en/download/

It's not the same thing, because it's similar to DropBox but with a completely different philosophy.

-m

[Stefan Pfister]

Nice idea, but I want to use my raspi-server. Thanks for the tip.

Am Fr., 23. Nov. 2018, 19:16 hat PMario <pmar...@gmail.com> geschrieben:

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[PMario]

On Friday, November 23, 2018 at 10:21:28 PM UTC+1, Stefan Pfister wrote:

Nice idea, but I want to use my raspi-server. Thanks for the tip.

Yea, I know. ... seafile has as raspi-server, so I did list it as a _different_ option.

-m

[Stefan Pfister]

Alright I can install seafile on my raspi. It supports webdav. I'm running Debian Stretch with nextcloud. It supports webdav too. If there is a way to save a one—file—tiddlywiki with the build in save mechanism via webdav, this would really be a great feature. After reading all the posts in this thread. It seems to me that this funktionality does not work or does not even exist. Am I wrong?

Greeting
Stefan

[TonyM]

Syephan,

It is possible to use WebDAV on windows, I have done it. I dont know about your situation.

Regards
Tony

[Stefan Pfister]

Ok, I'm using linux and android. On linux no problem, simply using tiddlydesktop to save my tw-file in the nextcloud in combination with the linux desktop client of nextcloud. On android I'm out if luck. No success with saving. Therefore the idea to save with webdav in the nextcloud. How can this be achieved. I didn't found any hint in the tw documentation. Only the sentence that it should work nothing else.

Greetings

Stefan

Am Sa., 1. Dez. 2018, 23:54 hat TonyM <anthony...@gmail.com> geschrieben:

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[Stefan Pfister]

Is there a way to save a twfile with a webdavlink? Where should I put the webdavlink? Where the username? Where the password?