Webzine 1990s style: ideas for theme? Web Art Project

[Alex Hough]

Dear All,

From 1993-1999 I produced a fanzine. I am now revisting the project using audio, video and -- naturally -- TW.

Since the 1990s, in electronic music there have been trends evoking earlier electronic music.

I'd like the TW to share this aesthetic in a knowing and loving homage.

The feeling I want to evoke is of "nostalgia for a forgotten future" - the future was more exciting back in the early days of dance music and the web.

I think I'd like to distribute the TW and the audio adn video on a USB stick. Releasing a fanzine (on a paper medium) on a USB (more modern, yet on the way out thanks to Dropbox) is like the current trend where vinyl is making a return

Anyone one have any stylistic pointers? Even better.... if anyone wants to engage in a media art project involving music, audio, video, 'zines and TW, please get in contact

best wishes  

Alex

[TonyM]

Alex,

Sounds interesting. I studied a little in electronic music in school around 1982. I would love to help if I can

I have being thinking of building comissioned portfolio wikis to package content in a similar manner, but I think it is importiant to maintain the advantage of online capabilities to view or pull fresh content into wikis.

Basicaly I am suggesting that with some design planning you can distribute a tiddlywiki like a document but it can be primed to remain current through internet connectivity.

In some ways you share a curated view of the portfolio which people "own", can apply thier own feel and favorites. Yet at the same time you can source content where it is already published and avoid some of the copywrite issues since you never copy the source.

I think having something that is more than a bookmark to a website, more like a magazine while still benifiting from the online content available is a new way of looking at the world, a way that harks back to those simpler and collectable days. So you can give someone this as a gift, even wrapped is a great idea, Yet embracing the future,

Tiddlywiki is more than ideal for this.

Tony

[Alex Hough]

Hi Tony,

We've been recording audio and the files are coming in really big.

There's some VHS footage which is nearly 2 gigabites. I was thinking that using the memory stick as a way with a TW to distribute the media. It would be a little like a CD Rom from the old days. The files are just too big for Dropbox and UK upload speeds.

Collaborators its taking too long to share files: the USB drive seems the thing to use

We're also playing about with 3d scaning and 3d printing. we can distribute these type of files in our commuity of collaborators.

All this is in and about Stoke on Trent. The USB drive is fine as we are close enough to make human contact.

 

I really like the idea of  the portfolio which people "own" -- i think its especially interesting when working with archieve material and re-mixable material.

Alex

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[TonyM]

Alex,

Sounds like a fun project.

Yes large size media is often best transmitted by "sneaker net" on USB and it would be difficult to collaborate on those files directly however a big part of collaboration is active communication. So I am suggesting building into you zine have a online component.

You could even create a Yammer group here https://www.yammer.com/tiddlywiki and invite participants to join, then your distributed wiki have a tiddler with that groups discussions embedded in it.

I would also try and think a head a little, making sure your key tiddlers have a version number and you have a method for people to import changed tiddlers (Excluding your media) so you do not need to "put your sneakers on" for important but simple changes.

In the past I did a lot of work on USB based wikis, my car for example has all its PDF manuals in a Wiki, which my phone/tablet can read with a slightly special USB OTG cable.  have planned to USB enable a lot of devices by sticking low cost USB drives to them containing manuals, settings, firmware and even a log of troubleshooting undertaken.

Regards

Tony

On Friday, September 14, 2018 at 6:16:39 AM UTC+10, AlexHough wrote:

Hi Tony,

We've been recording audio and the files are coming in really big.

There's some VHS footage which is nearly 2 gigabites. I was thinking that using the memory stick as a way with a TW to distribute the media. It would be a little like a CD Rom from the old days. The files are just too big for Dropbox and UK upload speeds.

Collaborators its taking too long to share files: the USB drive seems the thing to use

We're also playing about with 3d scaning and 3d printing. we can distribute these type of files in our commuity of collaborators.

All this is in and about Stoke on Trent. The USB drive is fine as we are close enough to make human contact.

 

I really like the idea of  the portfolio which people "own" -- i think its especially interesting when working with archieve material and re-mixable material.

Alex

On 13 September 2018 at 15:02, TonyM <anthony...@gmail.com> wrote:

Alex,

Sounds interesting. I studied a little in electronic music in school around 1982. I would love to help if I can

I have being thinking of building comissioned portfolio wikis to package content in a similar manner, but I think it is importiant to maintain the advantage of online capabilities to view or pull fresh content into wikis.

Basicaly I am suggesting that with some design planning you can distribute a tiddlywiki like a document but it can be primed to remain current through internet connectivity.

In some ways you share a curated view of the portfolio which people "own", can apply thier own feel and favorites. Yet at the same time you can source content where it is already published and avoid some of the copywrite issues since you never copy the source.

I think having something that is more than a bookmark to a website, more like a magazine while still benifiting from the online content available is a new way of looking at the world, a way that harks back to those simpler and collectable days. So you can give someone this as a gift, even wrapped is a great idea, Yet embracing the future, 

Tiddlywiki is more than ideal for this.

Tony

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[Guille Rmo]

I also think TW is a great fit for this sort of project. I think you can have the file in the usb and play it in tiddlywiki. 

What kind of topics are present in your zine? If there is something I can contribute I would be glad to participate :) 

[Alex Hough]

The topics are  music, art, craft, makerspace, design

I've run into problems with the TW / audio solution. The standalone version of TW can't to relative links to external folder of audio files

Alex

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[TonyM]

Alex,

Perhaps referencing those external files is possible. Let us see what other say.

However, What about treating TW as a WebSite and connecting to an external audio hosting service.

Have you investigated the bandwidth such files may use if a lot of people come to your site? Many people with rich media content revert to SoundCloud or YouTube for videos for this very reason.

Regards

Tony

On Monday, September 17, 2018 at 6:28:11 PM UTC+10, AlexHough wrote:

The topics are  music, art, craft, makerspace, design

I've run into problems with the TW / audio solution. The standalone version of TW can't to relative links to external folder of audio files

Alex

On 14 September 2018 at 03:31, Guille Rmo <lga...@gmail.com> wrote:

I also think TW is a great fit for this sort of project. I think you can have the file in the usb and play it in tiddlywiki. 

What kind of topics are present in your zine? If there is something I can contribute I would be glad to participate :) 

El jueves, 13 de septiembre de 2018, 6:47:10 (UTC-6), AlexHough escribió:

Dear All,

From 1993-1999 I produced a fanzine. I am now revisting the project using audio, video and -- naturally -- TW.

Since the 1990s, in electronic music there have been trends evoking earlier electronic music.

I'd like the TW to share this aesthetic in a knowing and loving homage.

The feeling I want to evoke is of "nostalgia for a forgotten future" - the future was more exciting back in the early days of dance music and the web.

I think I'd like to distribute the TW and the audio adn video on a USB stick. Releasing a fanzine (on a paper medium) on a USB (more modern, yet on the way out thanks to Dropbox) is like the current trend where vinyl is making a return

Anyone one have any stylistic pointers? Even better.... if anyone wants to engage in a media art project involving music, audio, video, 'zines and TW, please get in contact

best wishes  

Alex

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