Fwd: [TiddlyWiki5] folded tiddlers - not enough visual feedback (#1908)

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andrew harrison

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Sep 20, 2015, 12:54:51 PM9/20/15
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Umm, will the fold-bar icon actually show up on the View Toolbar tab in the control panel when it is released cause right now it isn't? It's also not showing up on the Tools tab in tiddler info. But, great feature. I wish it were a plugin though.

andrew harrison

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Sep 20, 2015, 1:14:43 PM9/20/15
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I've been playing with this upcoming feature and something is missing, once I fold everything, I can't click one place to unfold everything. I have to click 42 times (a little exaggerated for effect) to get all my tiddlers expanded again.

Tobias Beer

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Sep 20, 2015, 1:32:37 PM9/20/15
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Hi Andrew,

Will the fold-bar icon actually show up on the View Toolbar tab in the control panel when it is released cause right now it isn't? 

Jeremy must be responding lightning fast,
otherwise I cannot explain how it is the very last entry. :-)

Or, are you asking for an icon for the bars?
I don't think it needs one, because
there is no toolbar button for it and there shouldn't be,
because it's only a setting, not a command...
so perhaps it shouldn't even be in that list to begin with!


I can't click one place to unfold everything.

There's a  button under Tools for that.


Great feature. I wish it were a plugin though.
 
Jeremy explains here, why it's in the core.

Best wishes,

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Jeremy Ruston

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Sep 20, 2015, 3:19:26 PM9/20/15
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Hi Andrew

On Sun, Sep 20, 2015 at 5:54 PM, andrew harrison <andrew.j....@gmail.com> wrote:
Umm, will the fold-bar icon actually show up on the View Toolbar tab in the control panel when it is released cause right now it isn't? It's also not showing up on the Tools tab in tiddler info.

When I visit http://tiddlywiki.com/prerelease/ on any browser I see the "fold-bar" as the last option in the info/tools panel (see attached illustration). There's no icon; just a checkbox and a text hint. Can you confirm that you're not seeing it? What browser and OS are you using?

Best wishes

Jeremy
 
But, great feature. I wish it were a plugin though.

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andrew harrison

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Sep 20, 2015, 4:53:21 PM9/20/15
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Sorry, I was just a little slow in understanding that the missing button isn't a button but a bar that runs across the tiddler. Not expected to find this option here since it isn't really a button or a tool but more of a styling option. It would be nice to have a button that unfolds everything after I fold everything though. Maybe the fold other tiddlers button could become unfold other tiddlers if it was used. I guess that would be a plugin?

Tobias Beer

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Sep 21, 2015, 1:44:04 AM9/21/15
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Hi Andrew,

When would an "unfold other tiddlers" button be of use, as compared to the existing "unfold all"?


Not expected to find this option here since it isn't really a button or a tool but more of a styling option.

+1

Best wishes,

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Andrew

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Sep 21, 2015, 9:08:27 AM9/21/15
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There is no existing unfold all listed and it is not yet visible in the prerelease.

Jeremy Ruston

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Sep 21, 2015, 9:09:57 AM9/21/15
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"Unfold all" is in the sidebar tools menu; with the checkbox you can get it displayed in the page toolbar.

Best wishes

Jeremy


On Mon, Sep 21, 2015 at 2:08 PM, Andrew <andrew.j....@gmail.com> wrote:

There is no existing unfold all listed and it is not yet visible in the prerelease.

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infurnoape

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Sep 21, 2015, 3:18:04 PM9/21/15
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Sorry, you are always right. I am slow. I kept looking at the wrong tools menu. I see it now.



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Danielo Rodríguez

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Sep 21, 2015, 6:11:23 PM9/21/15
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Hello Jeremy,

I don't know when you have added the new ui elements to the folding mechanism, but they work beautifully on mobile. I'm talking about the button to collapse a tiddler in the left side of each tiddler and the unfold button at the bottom.

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