Tiddlywiki as a free open source E-Learning authoring Tool

[Atronoush Parsi]

I was searching for a free open source e-learning authoring tool. These days many people look for such tools.

I think Tiddlywiki is one of the best. BUT few people know!!!

* TW supports hyperlinks / tags / TOC  / ...

* TW support rich texts

* TW supports bibliography 

* TW supports Latex (KLatex)

* TW supports audio/video/images

* TW has native presentation tool (through plugins like Tiddlyshow or Tiddlywiki-Reveal.Js)

* TW has commenting system

* TW supports Quiz / Q&As / flash cards

* TW support Todos/tasks/projects

* TW supports .... what TW does not support authoring???

The few things TW has not are: no end user / final apps, no easy to go documentation and no support for advertising to introduce this tool to people.

It seems TW is for a group of developers like raw materials to create different things but rarely a final product.

--Atro

[Rika Sukenik]

Hey Atro, good feedback. Sounds like you're new to Tiddlywiki, welcome! I'm new too. Can you elaborate on: "The few things TW has not are: no end user / final apps, no easy to go documentation and no support for advertising to introduce this tool to people. It seems TW is for a group of developers like raw materials to create different things but rarely a final product." 

[Atronoush Parsi]

Hi Rika,

 What I mean is TW is very powerful but there are few end user apps/editions. For newcomers there is no good starting manual / quick start tutorial, ...

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[David Gifford]

As someone who is not so new...

 1. No end user final apps - I think Atro means - "no or not many editions custom-designed to meet end-user specific needs" There are a couple of things for recipes, etc, but yes, there is a LOT of room for more things like that!

2. No easy to go documentation - I agree, much of the documentation is more about explaining the definitions of concepts than about How to do this and that. A few years ago I added some documentation for new users (a lot of the tiddlers from the Working with TiddlyWiki section of the Contents tab at tiddlywiki.com were started by me, and I did a lot of introductory tutorial tiddlers for my Stroll). But much more needs to be done. I for one would like to see a few non-techy, popular video introductions to saving in node.js and with Timimi, to be able to link to, to help first-timers get started.

3. No support for advertising - yes, this is open source, not a business, so that is on all of us. Stroll got a few balls rolling, and TiddlyTweeter should especially singled out as someone who promotes TW on social media (he is not the only one, but is the one whose activity I have happened to see the most). We need a few more champions like that.

4. Raw materials for developers - that is a good description, and I hope TW never loses that aspect. But we need to find a way to ease new people into it better, to lower the learning curve.

So yeah, Atro is essentially right. It wouldn't take much to change much of this. But most of us are either busy at our jobs in other fields, and focus on using TiddlyWiki rather than tinkering with it too much (I am one of those), or feel our free time and our personal abilties are more in the area of tinkering and coming up with plugins and new ideas, than doing documentation and onboarding (I am not one of those). We need to convert a few advertising and publicizing experts to TiddlyWiki, and maybe then we will get there. Blessings,

[TW Tones]

Atro,

The end products you speak of have being called editions, a whole suite has being published by people. 

However they often demonstrate the possibilities and have not necessarily evolved to increase usability.

Many other end user products have no doubt being created and implemented into homes, teams, work places with a larger user base than understands tiddlywiki. 

• However these are for purpose solutions made by an enthusiast for a a defined purpose and audience.
• As a result you tend not to see them

To transition from a good design to a robust published solution takes a lot of work and effort. 

• It's even more complex if you want to empower users to customise and develop it further without learning tiddlywiki.
• What is the incentive here?, we do not have an established sales and distribution channel, 
• I am all for free open source but sometimes it limits the affordability of undertaking the development process.

Some food for thought

We can work to change this.

Tones

[Rika Sukenik]

"But much more needs to be done. I for one would like to see a few non-techy, popular video introductions to saving in node.js and with Timimi, to be able to link to, to help first-timers get started." - David Gifford 

^^ youtube videos will probably help a lot with reach! ^^

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[Atronoush Parsi]

Thank you David and Tones!

David gave a very detailed answer!

- Atro

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