Use Talk Tiddlywiki instead of Google Forum

[Mohammad Rahmani]

Why should we use Talk Tiddlywiki (https://talk.tiddlywiki.org/) instead of Google Forum?

1. it mirrors all posts from Google Forum, so you will be notified what is going on Google Forum
2. it allows previewing your post before sending
3. it allows editing your post after it was sent! (this is very good feature I frequently need)
4. it supports pinig other users
5. it support code block
6. it supports nice sharing features e.g share to Twitter

Please complete this list with features I missed!

Best wishes

Mohammad

[Saq Imtiaz]

Not a feature but a reason:

The plan is to eventually make this group read only and move all discussions to Discourse. Actively using Discourse now, and not just for testing, will allow us to discover any pain points etc and make a more informed decision about whether we do want to make that permanent move to Discourse.

[Mohammad Rahmani]

So this is a very important reason for users to try Discourse before GG goes to a read only mode!

Best wishes

Mohammad

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[Mohammad Rahmani]

More features:

1. You can rate replies by thumb up/down! and give a heart to an answer 

2. You can bookmark a reply!

3. Flag posts

I have heard it is possible to TRANSCLUDE Google Forum posts, but I am not sure how!

Best wishes

Mohammad

[Mohammad Rahmani]

More feature

Using Share button, you can directly notify other users

Best wishes

Mohammad

On Thu, Aug 19, 2021 at 3:03 PM Mohammad Rahmani <mohammad...@gmail.com> wrote:

[Mohammad Rahmani]

On Thu, Aug 19, 2021 at 3:59 PM Mohammad Rahmani <mohammad...@gmail.com> wrote:

More features:

1. You can rate replies by thumb up/down! and give a heart to an answer 

2. You can bookmark a reply!

3. Flag posts

I have heard it is possible to TRANSCLUDE Google Forum posts, but I am not sure how!

I post this here as I want to share the asnswere with GG user!

Replied by Boris: https://talk.tiddlywiki.org/t/transcluding-posts-in-discourse/164?u=mohammad

It’s as simple as pasting a link to any other topic or comment on a line by itself as I have done above.
You can see a preview of the text, or all of it if short, and if longer you can click to expand the entire post inline.
Various other links can be pasted and will expand — eg embedding Twitter posts.
Quotes function in a similar way. You can highlight text on mobile or desktop and get a button labeled “Quote”. This will paste the contents into a reply with special formatting.
Feel free to experiment in the comments here!

Unbelievable! Just copy the link to a post and it will transclude the whole post!

I love it! 

[Mohammad Rahmani]

More Feature of Talk Tiddlywiki (TT)

1. TT lets filter messages by category

2. TT lets show the latest new messages

3. TT lets you use tags!

Best wishes

Mohammad

On Thu, Aug 19, 2021 at 3:03 PM Mohammad Rahmani <mohammad...@gmail.com> wrote:

[PMario]

On Thursday, August 19, 2021 at 1:30:11 PM UTC+2 Mohammad wrote:

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I have heard it is possible to TRANSCLUDE Google Forum posts, but I am not sure how!

When you register at Talk TiddlyWiki, you get a message from "discobot" ... It is highly recommended that you finish the tutorial that it will show you.

IMO it's fun and it would have told you, how to "transclude" content from every other internet page ... if possible.

-mario

[Mohammad]

More features

https://talk.tiddlywiki.org/

1. is much more readable on my mobile phone than GG

2. is more mobile friendly in terms of layout

3. allows me to reply privately to author

4. allow me to create a wiki (means a page, multiple users can edit it)

5. when I type the new post subjects warns me of similar questions

6. display the summary of page if I put a link

talk.tiddlywiki.org makes life easier!  

[Mohammad]

Ah, I had in mistake in previous post, item 4 is allows not allow! Sorry

If I had sent this message from talk.tiddlywiki.org, it would allow me to quickly return and edit my message!

GG is not enough forgiving to let me back and correct!

Thank you TT (Talk Tiddlywiki)

[Mohammad Rahmani]

One more exciting feature of talk.tiddlywiki.org

When I send a message in GG, I see it in talk.tiddlywiki.org. It mirrors GG and all posts (Q&A)

So, when I am not active in GG, I see what is going on in GG!

Amazingly is If I send a post in GG, then I can edit it in TT (talk.tiddlywiki.org)

TT is forgiving enough to allow me to edit my mistakes in GG!

Are you still hesitant which is better: GG or TT?

Best wishes

Mohammad

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[Charlie Veniot]

Yeah, GG still works better for me than TT on my desktop.

I don't do mobile, and I suspect it is the mobile goodness in discourse that makes the desktop experience pretty crappy from my perspective.

Every several days or so, I do visit https://talk.tiddlywiki.org/.

My big annoyance at the moment: I have a nice 27 inch display and almost half of the width is used up by obscenely sized margins on left and right side, forcing me into more scrolling up and down.  (Not an issue when viewing list of topics; is an issue when viewing a specific topic.)

If that gets addressed, then I'll be fine moving to talk.tiddly.org when GG gets locked.

On the positive side:

• My previous annoyance with much-too-busy topics screen was resolved by the "Sam's Simple Theme". 
• WCAG Dark color scheme is good.

[Mohammad Rahmani]

On Sun, Aug 29, 2021 at 12:03 AM Charlie Veniot <cj.v...@gmail.com> wrote:

Yeah, GG still works better for me than TT on my desktop.

I don't do mobile, and I suspect it is the mobile goodness in discourse that makes the desktop experience pretty crappy from my perspective.

Every several days or so, I do visit https://talk.tiddlywiki.org/.

My big annoyance at the moment: I have a nice 27 inch display and almost half of the width is used up by obscenely sized margins on left and right side, forcing me into more scrolling up and down.  (Not an issue when viewing list of topics; is an issue when viewing a specific topic.)

Q:

To the attention of https://talk.tiddlywiki.org/. admin!

Are there other themes out there to be selected based on the user's taste and need?

 

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[strikke...@gmail.com]

Mohammed,

Go to preferences then Interface and you will see Sams Simple theme.

[Charlie Veniot]

Just to re-iterate:

• "Sam's Simple Theme" does address one major problem I had
  

• HOWEVER (I think Mohammed was referring to this major peeve of mine): when viewing a discussion topic/thread, the obscene size of left and right side margins rob me of almost 50% of my 27 inch display's available space width-wise, making for more vertical scrolling and content flying vertically out of view

[Mohammad Rahmani]

Hi Charlie,

 Boris has replied and suggested having a look at Discourse themes, they welcome to add more themes!

Please see https://talk.tiddlywiki.org/t/other-themes-for-discourse/446

Best wishes

Mohammad

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[Charlie Veniot]

That wasn't particularly useful.

This Google Search, though, did find:

https://meta.discourse.org/t/reduce-page-margins/159101

The "Wide Theme" would be good, but useless to me if I can't have both the Wide Theme and Sam's Simple Theme simultaneously.

Well, I suppose there can only be one selected theme, so I'd need some kind soul to combine Wide and Sam's Simple into an all in one.  "Wide Sam's Simple"?  Well, just wide for viewing a topic.  With Sam's Simple to view list of topics, it wouldn't make much sense for that to be wide.

[PMario]

On Sunday, August 29, 2021 at 9:55:44 PM UTC+2 cj.v...@gmail.com wrote:

The "Wide Theme" would be good, but useless to me if I can't have both the Wide Theme and Sam's Simple Theme simultaneously.

Well, I suppose there can only be one selected theme, so I'd need some kind soul to combine Wide and Sam's Simple into an all in one.  "Wide Sam's Simple"?  Well, just wide for viewing a topic.  With Sam's Simple to view list of topics, it wouldn't make much sense for that to be wide.

Discourse knows 2 types components that can act as a theme.

• There are "full themes", which completely re-defines the UI.
• There are "theme components" 

Theme components only modify elements for the existing default theme. ... So theoretically it should be possible to define a "component theme" that is based on "simple" and also modifies the topic width. The name may be "simple overview - wide topics" or something similar.

BUT someone was to dive into the Discourse theme-building mechanism, to define the changes and publish them in a way that fit the Discourse "best practices".

Theme components have the advantage, that they should "survive" global theme changes made by the default theme.

That said ... I did skim the Discourse docs just a little bit, to get an overview. .. That's not enough to create a component as requested. ... BUT it should be doable.

have fun!

mario

[Mohammad Rahmani]

One nice feature of TT (https://talk.tiddlywiki.org) is it has syntax highlighting and it knows code blocks!

I can simply copy codes bysing the handy button top right of code block and paste in my Tiddlywiki!

For example see https://talk.tiddlywiki.org/t/tw5-list-sort-by-count-field-operator/366/7

Thank you TT! You made life easier!

Best wishes

Mohammad

On Sat, Aug 28, 2021 at 8:31 PM Mohammad <mohammad...@gmail.com> wrote:

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[TiddlyTweeter]

Ciao Mohammad

A PROBLEM with the short form for our Discourse group (https://talk.tiddlywiki.org) is it make it "TT".

BUT I'm TT ! (@TiddlyTweeter) :-). 

I'm  Reviewing The Situation with my on-line name for Discourse. :-)

Best wishes

TT

[Mohammad Rahmani]

On Tue, Aug 31, 2021 at 10:00 AM TiddlyTweeter <Tiddly...@assays.tv> wrote:

Ciao Mohammad

Hello Jociah,

 

A PROBLEM with the short form for our Discourse group (https://talk.tiddlywiki.org) is it make it "TT".

BUT I'm TT ! (@TiddlyTweeter) :-). 

Oh, yes, it is registered name by you ;-)

I'm  Reviewing The Situation with my on-line name for Discourse. :-)

Sure I use Talk Tiddlywiki instead of TT in future post!

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[TiddlyTweeter]

Ciao Mohammad

That is very generous of you! Thank you!

TT

[PMario]

On Tuesday, August 31, 2021 at 8:32:26 AM UTC+2 Mohammad wrote:

A PROBLEM with the short form for our Discourse group (https://talk.tiddlywiki.org) is it make it "TT".

BUT I'm TT ! (@TiddlyTweeter) :-). 

Oh, yes, it is registered name by you ;-)

I'm  Reviewing The Situation with my on-line name for Discourse. :-)

Sure I use Talk Tiddlywiki instead of TT in future post!

I think. "Talk" may be enough too ;)

-m

[Mohammad Rahmani]

A killing feature https://talk.tiddlywiki.org has is ability to post to Talk forum directly from your Tiddlywiki.

See the solution here!

https://talk.tiddlywiki.org/t/admin-what-about-posting-to-discourse-via-url/410/6

Thank you to @TiddlyTweeter , @BurningTreeC and @Sii

Are still hesitant to try https://talk.tiddlywiki.org and perhaps move to it!

Best wishes

Mohammad

On Sat, Aug 28, 2021 at 8:31 PM Mohammad <mohammad...@gmail.com> wrote:

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