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RickL

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Jun 15, 2016, 10:18:49 AM6/15/16
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I keep several TW5 files in different areas of interest and keep them all in the same Dropbox folder to be able to take advantage of the cross linking command.


In each file I have a "to read" tag, along with a "to read" tiddler that shows the reading list contents for each file.


Ideally, I would like to have a single file, or tiddler in a file, showing the name of each TW5 and a content for each "to read" tiddler in the respective file.


I can create a link to each in a single tiddler but that is not as useful as having the actual list segregated by the file name.


Is this possible at this time?


Thanks

Mark S.

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Jun 15, 2016, 10:48:00 AM6/15/16
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It's not natively in there, but I wonder if Jed's Twederation technology could be used to pull in lists?

Jed Carty

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Jun 15, 2016, 11:31:50 AM6/15/16
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You could in fact use the things I made for twederation to have something like that on your computer. I don't have things set up nicely for it at the moment but you could have a central wiki that pulls information from the other wikis you have and then use that to organize everything.

I hadn't thought of using it like this but I will have to look into it now.

Jeremy Ruston

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Jun 15, 2016, 11:39:49 AM6/15/16
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Hi Jed

You could in fact use the things I made for twederation to have something like that on your computer. I don't have things set up nicely for it at the moment but you could have a central wiki that pulls information from the other wikis you have and then use that to organize everything.

I have a bad feeling that no browser now allows JS from file:// URIs to access other file:// URIs via xmlhttprequest. That feeling is partly offset by a dim memory that Firefox has a command line switch that enables such access…

Best wishes

Jeremy


I hadn't thought of using it like this but I will have to look into it now.

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Mark S.

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Jun 15, 2016, 11:59:16 AM6/15/16
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In RickL's case, the files are being kept on dropbox. So if the Twederation problems with https could be solved .... maybe then ??

Jeremy Ruston

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Jun 15, 2016, 12:03:31 PM6/15/16
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Hi Mark

In RickL's case, the files are being kept on dropbox. So if the Twederation problems with https could be solved .... maybe then ??

The trouble is that RickL probably wants the receiving wiki to be accessed via its file:// URI so that he can save changes.

Best wishes

Jeremy

Mark S.

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Jun 15, 2016, 1:32:18 PM6/15/16
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A local file can pull from a remote TW. Assuming the https problems are overcome, then one could possibly pull from their local drop-box folder in the master TW.

Mark

Jed Carty

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Jun 15, 2016, 3:16:20 PM6/15/16
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The https problem is if you are on an https server you can not pull this from a non-https server, you can get things from an https server from anywhere. If you have a local wiki you should be able to get things from an https site just fine. 

RickL

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Jun 15, 2016, 3:20:02 PM6/15/16
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Dropbox is not a must is this case, though it certainly makes it most convenient.

That being said, if I could create a master list with links on my home server or PC I could work with that - if that makes it possible.

Mark S.

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Jun 15, 2016, 3:34:16 PM6/15/16
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I'm not a regular user of DB. But I just tried it, and it appeared that I could fetch Hegart's cards from a Twederation file on DropBox. So maybe if you want to fetch within the drop box system you can do that -- which is Rick's situation.

What I don't understand is how most people using DB with TW are saving. I can save from DB to a local folder, which can be the local DB folder. It's more cumbersome than the TiddlyFox approach, but not too bad.

Thanks,
Mark

RichardWilliamSmith

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Jun 15, 2016, 10:39:44 PM6/15/16
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Hi Matt,

I use Dropbox with Tiddlyfox, the file just gets saved as normal into the Dropbox folder on my machine, which is synced automagically with the cloud version. I have a public folder (some people, I think, do not - though this may have changed again) so if I want anything to go live, I store it there - you can even enter a DNS record to point a proper domain name at the file and get what looks like a real website (eg; http://didaxy.net/) that you can publish to in the simplest possible way imaginable (by modifying the local TW and hitting save).

I guess the idea is that RickL's master wiki can pull from the online copies of the other wikis. I'm not sure whether Dropbox private links are as good as URLs for this purpose, or whether the wikis will have to sync to a public folder, but it still seems a bit over-kill-ish to rely on a round trip across the internet when all the files are right there.

I wonder if TiddlyDesktop is able to do it? I haven't really used it. There is certainly some set of Node commands that can do it, right? It seems like we should be able to create some kind of desktop app for watching a bunch of standalone TWs and extracting selected information from them. Maybe it would even be easier to implement a federation prototype that way (with node clients, rather than browser to browser)?

Regards,
Richard

Jed Carty

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Jun 16, 2016, 3:15:50 AM6/16/16
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Richard,

You can do this with local files. This is exactly what I made for the prototype for twederation. I have not had any trouble opening a local wiki on a file:// uri and fetching things from another local wiki on another file uri.

If it is something that browsers are supposed to block it isn't happening for me at least.

RickL

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Jun 28, 2016, 7:07:11 AM6/28/16
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So there are opinions that yes this can be done, and others that say it cannot.

If possible could someone give a detailed example?  
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