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laurenceman

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Mar 12, 2007, 3:28:47 PM3/12/07
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Hi all,

I've put my "weave links" plugin onto a tiddlyspot page. It's pretty
basic and rough but so far in my own use and some testing it works ok.
I probably won't be doing much with it other than fixing bugs or
improving the code (definitely needed!). It was supposed to be a quick
hack just so I wouldn't have to remember to add brackets to
nonwikiword titles. So much for economy of time. Maybe it will save
someone time.

http://weave.tiddlyspot.com/


-laurence

springer

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Mar 17, 2007, 5:49:11 PM3/17/07
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Hi Laurence! As the original speculative "fantasizer" I'm thrilled to
see this work being done! I think for certain purposes, TiddlyWiki
becomes a tool of another whole dimension once this functionality
really happens...

After playing with your plugin a bit I'll offer two feedback nudges
which may or may not be easy to address (and maybe someone else will
pick up the ball too?), but all in the spirit of being giddy with
excitement:

(1) Currently your replacement executes on the "done" end of editing a
tiddler. Ideally, I think, I'd like a script that happens on SAVE of a
TW copy intended for web-publication, so that my *working* copy can
remain clean of hard links (instead using the more time-consuming
"soft" redirect macro process that renders available links in the
wikified display, without altering the straight text in the tiddler
body), while only a *web-published* version gets reworked with the
AutoWeave process (and ideally this version would also have web-
visitor-irrelevant plugins removed too). Here's my reasoning:
(a) Once link brackets are "hard-woven" into a working TW file, all
sorts of editing artifacts become possible: You notice that the "first-
only" replacement is vulnerable to being superceded by future edits.
But worse: if I delete or rename a tiddler, the orphan link to it
remains in place (That could be fixed by having stripping all double-
brackets away before re-generating them, but I'm sure you know the
losses of that strategy!); and
(b) Something that runs through all tiddlers on saving a file enables
quick upgrading of a heavy existing file, without needing to massage
the whole file by touch-editing each tiddler.

(2) Did you see the thread about tiddler aliases? In real contexts,
we'd like links to work for the singular/plural variants of tiddler-
titles, and for various synonymous expressions. So, the tiddler
entitled "cars" wants not only [[cars]] links, but [[car]] and
[[automobile]] and [[automobiles]] and maybe [[automotive]] and
[[vehicles]], etc. Currently I'm running a version of the redirect
macro which works together with the TiddlerAlias plugin to make
*virtual* (soft) links based on tiddler titles *and* aliases. I wonder
whether the hard-conversion process could also be tweaked to include
aliases... (Maybe we could eventually manage wildcard-based aliases
like vehic*!)

But a hearty thanks to you, Laurence, for giving us the first glimpse
of a TiddlyWiki world enhanced with an AutoWeavePlugin.

-Elise

On Mar 12, 3:28 pm, "laurenceman" <laurence....@gmail.com> wrote:
> Hi all,
>
> I've put my "weave links" plugin onto a tiddlyspot page. It's pretty

> basic and rough but so far in my own use and some testing it works ok...

Stuart Thomas

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Sep 18, 2017, 12:15:10 AM9/18/17
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Hello Laurence
I'm a newbie to TiddlyWiki
I'd love to use the plugin but I can't get it to work
I copied its text into a new tiddler, named it $:/plugins/tiddlywiki/weaveLinks, changed its type to application/json
But it won't register as a plugin and certainly isn't functioning.
I'd be grateful for any tips please.
Best wishes
Stuart

Mark S.

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Sep 18, 2017, 12:48:21 AM9/18/17
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Are you using TWC or TW5 ? That plugin was made for TWC (older, classic).

Good luck,
Mark

Stuart Thomas

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Sep 18, 2017, 2:52:31 AM9/18/17
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TW5. Can the plugin work in that environment?

Mat

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Sep 18, 2017, 3:12:42 AM9/18/17
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TW5. Can the plugin work in that environment?

Sorry, no. :-(


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Stuart Thomas

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Sep 18, 2017, 3:53:20 AM9/18/17
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Thanks so much for your prompt reply. I'll have to explore twc!!
Best wishes
Stuart

Stuart Thomas

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Sep 18, 2017, 3:54:20 AM9/18/17
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Hi.
Have you found such a solution in tw5, pls? I'd love to know.
Stuart

Mat

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Sep 18, 2017, 4:57:57 AM9/18/17
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Thanks so much for your prompt reply. I'll have to explore twc!!

Unless you really need that specific functionality, I'd strongly recommend going with TW5 instead. TWC works - but here has been next to no development for it for several years now. TW5 is intended as a replacement.

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PMario

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Sep 18, 2017, 4:58:26 AM9/18/17
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Hi,

Weave was a service / experiment from google, which was deactivated a long time ago. So imo it makes no sense to explore TWc to use a non existent service.

-m

PMario

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Sep 18, 2017, 5:03:07 AM9/18/17
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On Monday, September 18, 2017 at 10:58:26 AM UTC+2, PMario wrote:
Weave was a service / experiment from google, which was deactivated a long time ago. So imo it makes no sense to explore TWc to use a non existent service.

uups, ... I should have read the old posts ... I was trickted by the name of the plugin :)
just ignore my last comment.

-m

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