Snagit Users and TiddlyWiki

[TonyM]

Folks,

I use SnagIt from TechSmith for screen capture and videos. It can also modify and annotate images which is very helpful for building documentation.

I just upgraded to their latest version 2018 and wanted to let you know it can do the following very well that is useful with TiddlyWiki

• Drag and drop directly from the snagit editor tray to tiddlywiki (PNG files)
• Capture text out of images (and past into TiddlyWiki) as text (OCR)
• or move text within the captured image
• Capture a video, then drag into TiddlyWiki as MP4  from the snagit editor tray to tiddlywiki
• It also has a wide range of stamps which can annotate or be used on their own to create images / icons to use in TiddlyWiki
  
• and a lot more that was already there.

Regards

Tony

[Mark S.]

What would be more exciting is if someone finally had a way to drag and drop an image, forming an external link. Storing images inside of TW is untenable.

-- Mark

[Jeremy Ruston]

Hi Mark

On 19 Apr 2018, at 14:56, 'Mark S.' via TiddlyWiki <tiddl...@googlegroups.com> wrote:

What would be more exciting is if someone finally had a way to drag and drop an image, forming an external link. Storing images inside of TW is untenable.

That’s never going to be possible with regular browsers. But it is a feature offered by TiddlyDesktop (you’ll also need the TW plugin "External attachment support for TiddlyDesktop et al.” aka $:/plugins/tiddlywiki/external-attachments).

Best wishes

Jeremy.

[@TiddlyTweeter]

Ciao Jeremy

IMO I think TiddlyDesktop is currently underrated. I think it is a very fine piece of work with huge flexibility.

I hope we can get that flex stretched and tried and tested and documented more. I'm incredibly impressed with its Backstage potential.

Josiah

[@TiddlyTweeter]

I tried it. I works well as a kinda "total solution" for the recording / image saving. But I'm not sure its that much better than, in the end, than, Windows Snip + a video recording tool.

[TonyM]

Folks,

In defence of my original post

if you use a single file wiki to document a process and treat it as a document then including images and videos is fine.

Link or iframe to YouTube for larger videos is sensible anyway.

I know we expect TiddlyWiki to do everything, but we cant make it break the rules that apply everywhere else such as web developers are always forced to reduce page size and load times so why should we be the exception?

Regards

Tony

[Mark S.]

The last time I tried using Snag-It, I found it pricey, and kind of confusing. I really liked Faststone, and would probably purchase it if I was doing frequent documentation. Green-shot works pretty well, but usually I get by with the screen-grab feature of IrfanView or even the mozilla screenshot tool that comes with FF. For images, anything that's in the clipboard can be pasted into TW.

A utility that's really helpful when you need to grab multiple types of information without going back and forth is Ditto, a clipboard manager. So, if you're on a web page, you can grab an image (with FF screenshot), the url, the title of the article,and the text. Then go back and set up your tiddler, inserting the various bits (title, URL field, etc.) without having to go back and forth.  Linux has several clipboard managers in its distribution, though none quite as versatile as Ditto. I imagine the world of Mac has such things too.

-- Mark

[BJ]

Hi Mark,
the new version of tiddlyclip will support selecting areas of the screen to screenshot  and allow the result to be saved separately from the docked tiddlywiki.

BJ

[TonyM]

Great BJ,

Looking forward to it. tiddlyclip really is an iconic TiddlyWiki solution. Thanks for developing it further.

Tony

[TonyM]

Mark,

I will check out the solutions you mention, Ditto sounds great for My SharePoint work. 

I paid for SnagIt years ago so only need to pay the upgrade, I would like camista for video editing but it is more expensive.

I find the ability to annotate the capture in the SnagIt Editor immediately after capture improves the work flow. 

So now it is Snap, Annotate, drag and drop, then insert image reference into part of TiddlyWiki (This could be better)

Dreaming I would like to drop and image on an open tiddler and have it insert the link to the image and import it in one step.

Regards

Tony

[Mark S.]

I don't know what BJ has in mind, but assume that he's found an extension feature that can work around the browser path limitations. That will be interesting to see.

But even if the path information isn't exposed in standard DAD (DragAndDrop , obviously the file name is. So if you know that all your images are going to be in directory 'xyz', then it should be able to construct a DAD process that pulls the path name from a configuration tiddler and creates a new _canonical_uri from that. Most of my image directories are below the directory where the TW is so that it's easy to transport everything together. They tend to be like images/2018 so that the configuration tiddler would only need to change once a year or so.

-- Mark