At which size does a wiki begin to make problems (on mobile devices AND on computer)?

[Surya]

Hi all,

I need all my wikis on my computer AND on my mobile devices.
My mobile devices are not highend and not the newest ones (both around Android 6).

At which size does a wiki begin to make problems (on mobile devices AND on computer)?

I read somewhere, that problems can begin at a size of about 4MB on mobile devices.

Is that correct?

Thanks for your answers!
Surya

[Mark S.]

My devices are Android 4 !

There is a difference between phones and tablets. Tablets usually have more computing power.

Also, there is a difference if you use a browser or Andtidwiki.

Andtidwiki is an App for Android that can run TiddlyWiki. It is usually faster and easier than a browser.

The best way is to test for yourself.

If you go to tiddlywiki.com and click on the red check mark you will download a file about 4.5 Megs in size. Test that file on your devices.

I read a 6 meg file every day on my tablet. It takes about 18 seconds to load. Strangely, it loads faster (10 seconds) on my phone.

I almost never write or take notes on these big files when using devices. The typing is too painfully slow. Instead I use Simplenote and then transfer the note on my desktop.


Good luck!

-- Mark

[Surya]

Hello Mark,

thanks for your really helpful answer!!

I will test that soon :-)

I use Andtidwiki too.

But I would like to be able for editing the existing tiddlers in Andtidwiki- that will be only editing dates of ToDos & only very small text editing (like in a receipt: to correct from 100g to 120g or mark a word red).

I am also a bit worried about my huge amount of tags. I mean in one wiki- also used on my phone- I will have a huge amount of tiddlers having 15-30 tags. I need all these tags in those tiddlers. But I am a bit worried, if that isn't good for the size or for the performance of the wiki.

Surya

[Surya]

Where is this red checkmark? I couldn't find it anywhere there...

[Mark S.]

I mean the standard "save" checkmark. If you haven't changed anything, then it might not be red. Sorry!

-- Mark

[Mark S.]

I have never heard of performance problems associated with large numbers of tags.

There are performance issues related to the number of tiddlers you display and to the sidebar tiddler listing.

That is why it is better to display the "Open" sidebar rather than the "Recent" sidebar.

Good luck!

-- Mark

[Surya]

Ahhh, fine and good to know, thanks :-))

[Birthe C]

Hi Surya,

The savebutton turns red and looks like a circle with a checkmark in it.

Birthe

[Surya]

Hi,

my results:

I downloaded this 4,5MB tiddlywiki.com and tested it on my smartphone. I tested

• how smooth & fast does it scroll
• how fast does it open listed tiddlers from sidebar
• tiping in search field: how good is the tiping & how fast are search results displayed
• and making a new tiddler: how good is the tiping in there

Everything worked fine :-)

Then I imported some big plugins- it increased up to 5,9MB. Same testing >>fine.
Then I imported 2 pictures from me- it increased up to 15,1MB. Same testing >>fine, except, that the tiping is a little little bit not so smooth. But no problem at all.


Tested on my smartphone Sony Xperia Z1 compact, Android 5.1.1- ohhh, not like I said about Android 6 ;-)

Surya

[Mark S.]

How much RAM ?

-- Mark

[Surya]

Hi Mark,

How much RAM ?

Where can I find out that?

[Mark S.]

Edited from the net:

1. Pull down your control screen
   
2. Tap on “Settings”
3. Go to Applications
4. Tap on “Running Application”
5. At the bottom (or sometimes top) it will show amount used and amount remaining. Add together for approx total

Another procedure (may not work on newer machines):

1. Hold down Home button until task list appeared

2. In lower right hand corner there is a "pie-shaped" icon

3. Click on icon to see resource use

4. Click on "Ram" to see ram usage including total Ram available

And finally ...

Check your sales receipt ;-)

I looked it up.Yours should have 2.2 G RAM (40% more than mine and more than my netbook).

-- Mark

[Surya]

Hi Mark,

Another procedure (may not work on newer machines):

1. Hold down Home button until task list appeared

 That didn't work.

• 3. Go to Applications
• 4. Tap on “Running Application”

I think you meant "Active" (the other possibilities in "Apps" are called in my phone "Downloaded", "On SD-Card", "All" and "Deactivated").

In "Active" I got:
System: 651 MB RAM
Apps: 495 MB RAM
Free: 591 MB RAM

Surya

[Mal]

Surya,

I look after some medical tiddlywikis with quite a few embedded images and I get reports of poor performance if they get over about 35-40 MB, so I then shrink the images and performance improves.

This wiki is synchronized using Dropbox across various devices including an iPad and an iPhone.  However, any editing is done on a desktop or laptop.

Regards,

Mal

[Surya]

Hi Mal,

I imported my pictures at first too. And they are really small (in MB).

But I when the wiki is finished I will have maybe 500 pictures or more or less- I don't know yet. Because I cannot say how much I will have & how much the size increases with that, I prefer now going on the safe side and load them up with a service, for getting an URL.

I don't like that- really not.

But it's the safe side for the size.

Surya