Feedback welcome
Hello to the wider tiddlywiki community - and thanks to the many who have helped in various ways.
The EPUB version is now selling and the TW5 version will be hot on its heels after a get a few "kinks" ironed out
In the meantime - here's TW version - https://payhip.com/b/JLBv
and the ePUB version for comparison - http://bit.ly/SQebook
The content is "almost" exactly the same - but the delivery, navigation ( & navigability ) , imagery, readability, tag links etc create a very different reading experience
John and Sandy, congrats and really thanks for sharing!!! Writing a real book in TW - I think you're the first!
Feedback welcomeI have not read the actual contents so I cannot comment on this. Layoutwise, I like it a lot. Gives a very friendly feeling. ( thanks - THAT is one of the greatest accessibility features of TW )
Some things to consider:
- I got a bit confused with the tabs in the Contents but it may be that I'm used to standard TW where dark tabs means they're inactive. This made me wonder why two tabs (the white ones) seemed active. Maybe instead of coloring the tab background lilac, it would be clearer if only the tab borders were colored?
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Hello to the wider tiddlywiki community - and thanks to the many who have helped in various ways.
The EPUB version is now selling and the TW5 version will be hot on its heels after a get a few "kinks" ironed out
In the meantime - here's TW version - https://payhip.com/b/JLBv
The content is "almost" exactly the same - but the delivery, navigation ( & navigability ) , imagery, readability, tag links etc create a very different reading experience
John and Sandy, congrats and really thanks for sharing!!! Writing a real book in TW - I think you're the first!
Feedback welcomeI have not read the actual contents so I cannot comment on this. Layoutwise, I like it a lot. Gives a very friendly feeling.
Some things to consider:
- I got a bit confused with the tabs in the Contents but it may be that I'm used to standard TW where dark tabs means they're inactive. ** coloured dark ( eg purple is active ) and uncoloured is unselected This made me wonder why two tabs (the white ones) seemed active. Maybe instead of coloring the tab background lilac, it would be clearer if only the tab borders were colored? I think in a more "technical" ebook &/or one without so much imagery, colour and personality - your suggestion is more appropriate ( thanks
- Tiddler Contents doesn't seem to be a table of contents, as I expected, but rather the actual contents of the whole book?
- ...and why is the default tab called "Front"? Front of what? (Front contents? It is not the front of the book with the image...?)
- There is a tag in the middle of the, um, Front tab list. It seems to work like a link thought. But it leads to the same tiddler that the actual link next to it.
- Tiddler "Offline Reading" seems to miss close tiddler button.
- In Reflections, the tab Inspiration is arbitrarily(?) open by default.
- I'm not sure the flow-width layout is optimal for reading. It would probably be better with a more narrow column in center. But then maybe it is not intended for a laptop screen.
- The wide screen also makes e.g the single line text under each reflection be to the left making but the imag+caption is centered.
Again, thanks for sharing John + Sandy!
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a "read" that embraces colour and creativity..... expression.
I provide marketing / training / mentor services to some large & specialist retail groups
and THEIR FLOORSPACE was the inspiration as to HOW to use dynamic navigation within TW ebooks
As these books are for readers who wander like "browsing customers" it makes sense to appeal to their similar proclivities :
From another bunch of comments and feedback ( other respondents ) were the layout options I deployed.
Under CONTENTS : "Why is there a FRONT | MAIN BOOK ( the REFLECTIONS ) | and BACK ?
The format of just about any eBook ( ePUB for example ) and physical book follow the same protocols
TW does have the advantage of having more dynamic ways to presents them.......
I almost every ePUB and physical book - once having turned the cover over to enter the book
the reader then FLIPs through :
I think having TOC up earlier saves "flipping" through pages that often aren't read - and almost NEVER re-read
So, a TOC upfront that still provides FRONT | MAIN CONTENT | BACK is appropriate
To validate this - just check out :
which has relevant notes for ePUB / printed book / TWebook
and the "Chicago Manual of Style Conventions" formats required to submit ePUB ebooks
( not applicable to TWebooks - but some consistency is warranted )
Hope that helps
anyone who wants to receive updates on TWebooks - please email me directly - via john @ social . as
I'd update via where the free Ebook edition was found but most provided dummy/junk email addresses.
cheers
John
John and Sandy, congrats and really thanks for sharing!!! Writing a real book in TW - I think you're the first!
Feedback welcomeI have not read the actual contents so I cannot comment on this. Layoutwise, I like it a lot. Gives a very friendly feeling.Some things to consider:
- I got a bit confused with the tabs in the Contents but it may be that I'm used to standard TW where dark tabs means they're inactive. This made me wonder why two tabs (the white ones) seemed active. Maybe instead of coloring the tab background lilac, it would be clearer if only the tab borders were colored? ( I tested this "different" book on 20 test-bunnies who are readers - no tech-heads, more attuned to reading printed books - one needed guidance - all "got" the notion of coloured tab ( in CONTENTS ) is the active one .......yes - that differs from "normal TW protocol" but aligns with the standard within the ebook for active buttons being coloured. )
- Tiddler Contents doesn't seem to be a table of contents, as I expected, but rather the actual contents of the whole book? ( Refer to the extended response to that in RIZ's comments - also refer to the link that provides some commentary to protocols demanded for ePUB submission an how I addressed that with TW formatting - I am still open for feedback.... Again in reference to my test-bunnies - I didn't ask about how they saw / worked with the TOC - there wasn't any feedback or comment on that TOC - and in enquiring later - they responded with "yeah - all good" as if they just ran with it ..... ) link >> https://goo.gl/cC2F8X
- ...and why is the default tab called "Front"? Front of what? (Front contents? It is not the front of the book with the image...?) ( refer same as above - hopefully I've covered that - if not, I am open to more questions / comments / suggestions.) https://goo.gl/cC2F8X
- There is a tag in the middle of the, um, Front tab list. It seems to work like a link thought. But it leads to the same tiddler that the actual link next to it. ( Experimenting with the testers / reviewers - to see which they preferred - I have dropped the tag button ..... consistency won out. )
- Tiddler "Offline Reading" seems to miss close tiddler button. [ Can you please advise on which chapter ? - and I'll check it out ]
- In Reflections, the tab Inspiration is arbitrarily(?) open by default. ( That will be set to ABUNDANCE when finalised ) thanks
- I'm not sure the flow-width layout is optimal for reading. It would probably be better with a more narrow column in center. ( I totally agree !!! ) You have the twEbook oprimised for mobile device screens - more specifically iPhone But then maybe it is not intended for a laptop screen. ( When complete there are 3 versions - mobile / Tablet / Desktop* ) * Desktop challenges me as that's the one significant advantage that ePUBs and PDFs have - the ability to present 2 open pages - side x side onscreen - I haven't addressed that as yet - and I may not - as the major (re)sellers of ebooks have mobile devices way ahead of desktop reading ( according to screen res recorded ) - I would guess that techincal books - esp in PDF would invert that result - my market is primarily mobile
- Tiddler "Offline Reading" seems to miss close tiddler button. [ Can you please advise on which chapter ? - and I'll check it out ]
This edition of the Spiritual Quest ebook is linked to online content allowing for content updates. You can read both online and offline by embedding this ebook into your iphone / ipad.
As the ebook is Read Only - I cannot figure out how to ACTIVATE a placemarker as you suggest - if you have any ideas please forward them.
I am happy to create an independent copy of the SQuest formatting etc as you ask and hope to publish that to the TW fraternity in a couple of weeks.
cheers John
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If this did open at the last opened Tiddler - then it is a great way to bookmark and open at last page read...
cheers
John