Thoughts on static publishing Tiddlywiki

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Florian Felix

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Apr 12, 2021, 12:11:38 PM4/12/21
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Well, I'm into the whole "digital gardening" wormhole.
Tidllywiki is kind of interesting here because it actually does a lot what is required for "digital gardening" - it is in itself a notetaking tool, does transclusion, plugins are available... the possibility of tiddlymap for visualization ... also it is highly customizable which is  always great. It has a search and easy commenting going, what many static site publishing systems are kind of struggling with.
The main benefits of static export in tiddlywiki is probably easier searchability ( i think), a more useroriented layout and choosing what you publish.
That's what ssg's do good and there are tons of themes available that don't need to be developped. templating static site export in TW so far has been not very easy to understand for me, in comparison to jekyll, and then you possibly loose some features like the search or the commenting, or a toggleable sidebar (not saying they're impossile to port or recreate, but i haven't seen it).
so maybe that could be combined?
integrate TW with an SSG via plugins? publish from TW via SSG, inheriting macros and linking to ensure digital gardening capabilities  but doing the "macro" via the ssg?
(maybe possible with "nikola" based on python and the pytiddlywiki package ?) This would then enable to combine Tiddlywiki based and other content.

from the other side, is it possible to use a tiddlywiki theme that you don't use dynamically but have installed for static export, and (how) could i port a theme fom a static site engine?

Mohammad Rahmani

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Apr 12, 2021, 2:05:11 PM4/12/21
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Good idea Florian,


On Mon, Apr 12, 2021 at 8:41 PM 'Florian Felix' via TiddlyWiki <tiddl...@googlegroups.com> wrote:
Well, I'm into the whole "digital gardening" wormhole.
Tidllywiki is kind of interesting here because it actually does a lot what is required for "digital gardening" - it is in itself a notetaking tool, does transclusion, plugins are available... the possibility of tiddlymap for visualization ... also it is highly customizable which is  always great. It has a search and easy commenting going, what many static site publishing systems are kind of struggling with.
The main benefits of static export in tiddlywiki is probably easier searchability ( i think), a more useroriented layout and choosing what you publish.
That's what ssg's do good and there are tons of themes available that don't need to be developped.

 
templating static site export in TW so far has been not very easy to understand for me,

I think the reason is there is not enough documentation on this. The current community tools and docs are old and stranded in the net!
I have tried this and created some tools and publishing is like a one click in browser or run a shell script! 

See this example from a year ago: https://github.com/kookma/TW-StaticPages
It needs a working node.js 

1. fire up your wiki
2. create tiddlers 
3. tags those you like to be published (e.g tag with public)
4. From terminal issue tiddlywiki --build static

So, this is much easier than Jekyll!

You can integrate other css, themes and any html template you like!


Another example TiddlyJam recently announced

Jeremy is working on a publishing framework, I am waiting to see how this new tool works!

 
in comparison to jekyll, and then you possibly loose some features like the search or the commenting, or a toggleable sidebar (not saying they're impossile to port or recreate, but i haven't seen it).

These are possible and I think Jeremy will add search tool for static site!

so maybe that could be combined?
integrate TW with an SSG via plugins? publish from TW via SSG, inheriting macros and linking to ensure digital gardening capabilities  but doing the "macro" via the ssg?
(maybe possible with "nikola" based on python and the pytiddlywiki package ?) This would then enable to combine Tiddlywiki based and other content.

from the other side, is it possible to use a tiddlywiki theme that you don't use dynamically but have installed for static export, and (how) could i port a theme fom a static site engine?


Tiddlywiki can acts as static site generator, so the site it generates can be totally different from what TW itself is!

 

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