I'll hopefully have a play with it at work this week.
Cheers
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Notebook Name: JWH_NoteSelf
CouchDB URL: https://jwhoneycutt.cloudant.com (right?)
Remote database name: JWH_NoteSelf
Page title: JWH_NoteSelf
Maybe I violated some JavaScript convention when I renamed the file, or moved it?
- How far I've gotten:
- 7) I drag this newly renamed file to the FireFox address bar and it fails to load with a big red error box: "Internal JavaScript Error, Well, this is embarrassing. It is recommended that you restart TiddlyWiki by refreshing your browser -ReferenceError: $TPouch is not defined" - since refreshing the address bar doesn't help - I close the tab in FireFox
- How far I've gotten:
- 1) Created a Cloudant account: https://jwhoneycutt.cloudant.com
- 1A) In Cloudant -> Account -> CORS: Enabled CORS and restricted to specific domain: https://noteself.github.io
- 2) Open https://noteself.github.io/ in Google Chrome (for some reason people keep saying to start TW5's in Google Chrome and use them in FireFox)
- 2A) In the GettingStarted tiddler I change the following entries:
Notebook Name: JWH_NoteSelf
CouchDB URL: https://jwhoneycutt.cloudant.com (right?)
Remote database name: JWH_NoteSelf
Page title: JWH_NoteSelf
- 3) I click on Save Config button - and a popup appears: "noteself.github.io says: Configuration has been changed and saved. It is necessary to reload the window. Are you OK with it?" -> I click OK
- 4) A "Loading" paints green from left to right for a few seconds, and the red circlecheck icon turns gray. It is next to a new button on the sideBar labelled OFFLINE (In the silent video this converts to a cloudcheck icon)
- 5) I save a new tiddler as a test and Chrome creates a file "tiddlywiki (5).html" in my downloads folder
- 6) I move this file from Downloads folder to Dropbox/TW5 folder and rename it JWH_NoteSelf.html
- 7) I drag this newly renamed file to the FireFox address bar and it fails to load with a big red error box: "Internal JavaScript Error, Well, this is embarrassing. It is recommended that you restart TiddlyWiki by refreshing your browser -ReferenceError: $TPouch is not defined" - since refreshing the address bar doesn't help - I close the tab in FireFox
- 8) I open TiddlyDesktop and "Add a TiddlyWiki file": I select Dropbox/TW5/JWH_NoteSelf.html and it doesn't load it, so I close all TW5 files and reload TiddlyDesktop
- 9) If (happens half the time) TiddlyWiki Desktop does load it - when I try to open it - it gives the same "Internal JavaScript Error" in a big red box.
- 10) Same error if I just try to double click JWH_NoteSelf.html in the dropbox folder (set to default open with FireFox)
Maybe I violated some JavaScript convention when I renamed the file, or moved it?
Afraid not.Downloaded using the download button from noteself.github.io;saved to 'downloads' directory;opened on Windows 7 using the "open with ..." method;Used Google Chrome 56.0.2924.76 (as deployed by my employer);And I got errors:
1) Created a Cloudant account: https://jwhoneycutt.cloudant.com
1A) In Cloudant -> Account -> CORS: Enabled CORS and restricted to specific domain:https://noteself.github.io
2) Open https://noteself.github.io/ in Google Chrome (for some reason people keep saying to start TW5's in Google Chrome and use them in FireFox)
2A) Download (instead of Online) - gives me Empty.html in Downloaded folder
2B) In the GettingStarted tiddler I change the following entries:
3) I click on Save Config button - and a popup appears: "noteself.github.io says: Configuration has been changed and saved. It is necessary to reload the window. Are you OK with it?" -> I click OK
4) A "Loading" paints green from left to right for a few seconds, and the red circlecheck icon turns gray. It is next to a new button on the sideBar labelled OFFLINE (In the silent video this converts to a cloudcheck icon)
4A) Click the OFFLINE box in SideBar (if you see one you don't have a cookie) and enter your Cloudant Username and PW
4B) A yellow popup states: "PouchAdaptor (time/date stamp) Login Failed"
4C) According to Danielo, the OFFLINE box should have converted to a Cloud icon (but it didn't)
At this point, the JWH_NoteSelf.html file gives a big red JavaScript error, no matter how I try to access it.
I tried bringing it into Atom (the text editor I am trying to learn to use), but can't find what to change to fix the html file and make it functional again.
Danielo writes:
I don't understand what are you trying to accomplish with those steps. If you pretend to use NoteSelf hosted somewhere else, I mean, different from https://noteself.github.io/online that is not the correct way. First, you should download the offline version, which is ready to work out of noteshelf domain. Then, on you cloudant account you should enable cors for any domain, because you are going to serve your file from a different domain. You see the RSOD because the online version depends on some stuff that is only available when it is loaded from https://noteself.github.io/online.There is a big green button on https://noteself.github.io/ to get the offline version. Try it out, but with your first 4 steps you have a working NoteSelf instance "installed" in your browser that will work exactly the same as the offline version. There is no to little sense to download the file to your computer
Tutti, Small comments ...
NoteSelf is currently largely MAGIC.
Meaning its actually quite difficult to conceptually grasp what it is & how it works. In time it will get clearer. That is NOT a criticism. Its an observation on a technology that just works a different way.
I am still myself unclear on several points ...
(1) CORS settings in Cloudant and what the addressing they ask you for there does? Do you need a "stub" at the address?
(2) Still unclear in the difference between the DOWNLOAD version and the ONLINE version.
(3) Am very hazy about COOKIE setting when using the ONLINE version.
(4) I get the impression that some tiddlers -- like PLUGINS for instance -- can be "hard-coded" into the DOWNLOAD version, rather than be in the browser database. In other words, there is a "sort-of" TW that exists outside the PouchDB for the download version?
(5) I'm unclear IF and HOW one can convert a DOWNLOAD version into a synchronising one with a cloud database version.
Best wishes
Josiah
I might regret this, but I'm going to attempt to help you JWHoneycutt.NoteSelf does not work like TiddlyWiki even though it is built on top of TiddlyWiki.
NoteSelf stores all of your content online on a server....
Wow. "NoteSelf - The Missing Manual"
Tutti, Small comments ...
NoteSelf is currently largely MAGIC.
Meaning its actually quite difficult to conceptually grasp what it is & how it works. In time it will get clearer. That is NOT a criticism. Its an observation on a technology that just works a different way.
I am still myself unclear on several points ...
(1) CORS settings in Cloudant and what the addressing they ask you for there does? Do you need a "stub" at the address?
(2) Still unclear in the difference between the DOWNLOAD version and the ONLINE version.
(4) I get the impression that some tiddlers -- like PLUGINS for instance -- can be "hard-coded" into the DOWNLOAD version, rather than be in the browser database. In other words, there is a "sort-of" TW that exists outside the PouchDB for the download version?
(5) I'm unclear IF and HOW one can convert a DOWNLOAD version into a synchronising one with a cloud database version.
@TiddlyTweeter escribió:
NoteSelf is currently largely MAGIC.Hope that is not so bad as it sounds.
Hello again Lost Admin
El miércoles, 19 de julio de 2017, 15:05:27 (UTC+2), Lost Admin escribió:I might regret this, but I'm going to attempt to help you JWHoneycutt.NoteSelf does not work like TiddlyWiki even though it is built on top of TiddlyWiki.NoteSelf stores all of your content online on a server....That is a very great explanation that makes things easier to understand. I would love to make it part of the FAQ of NoteSelf. As I said, if you have the time and will I will welcome a PR. This is very good material.
Wow. "NoteSelf - The Missing Manual"The reason I never compared TW to NoteSelf side by side is because I was expecting most of the users coming from other services (for example, Evernote, o google keep) rather from the TW community. So I didn't wanted to confuse potentially new users pointing them to something they don't know and understand.
I'm sorry to see that so many people is having problems to understand what NoteSelf is, apart from what Tiddlywiki is. I made the best I could. Luckily Lost Admin is helping a lot in making things clearer.
Ciao Lost Admin & Daniello
I am STILL unclear about CORS.
Not so much the addressing CouchDB needs, but more about WHAT (if anything) needs to be at the domain/address?
Am I right in thinking that at the CORS listed domain there needs to be a NoteSelf of some sort that a user is using? That there needs to be some "software" that forms a bridge between the local and the Cloudant database? Like a core of Noteself that assists the magic? Or am I injecting excess meanings into all this?
By way of background, I have access to several of my own unique addresses and am trying to figure out the EASIEST way to make my own ONLINE version of Noteself suited to my aims.
So far its not working. Probably because I have no idea what I am doing.
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Did you set CORS? CORS needs to be set to the URL you are using. I thought it gets set automatically, but maybe not. CORS is a setting in the Cloudant dashboard.
On Sat, Jul 22, 2017 at 8:52 PM, 'Mark S.' via TiddlyWiki <tiddl...@googlegroups.com> wrote:
I've followed the directions and video as best I can to do an online Noteself. The problem is that it never logs into the cloudant database. The button says Offline. I click on the button and on Firefox nothing happens. I try it again on Chrome and I get a password and username box. I fill it out and submit. But it continues to say offline. I feel there is some missing magic step.
Thanks,
Mark
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Log out of the cloudant control panel. After that you will have to login every time you load the page.So if you don't want to always be logging in, just stay logged into cloudant.
On Jul 22, 2017 22:30, "'Mark S.' via TiddlyWiki" <tiddl...@googlegroups.com> wrote:
How do I log out of Noteself? I can delete the database, but as soon as I (or someone else) reloads the page, everything is available again.--
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How do I get to the CouchDB management interface? - I am trying to follow Lost Admin's original instructions above
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Login failed
(All in a yellow error box).
Mark
Hope the community (and me from time to time in small spare time ) can help you to iron the path.
Sincerely
Seems like plenty of people here willing to help out, test out, and support this work…
... My main objection to NS is that I have no more reason to trust cloudant than I do evernote. Less actually, since EN is aimed at individual persons whereas IBM is kind of aimed at big companies and projects. Also, cloudant seems experimental -- something that might disappear without warning and that is already morphing in front of our eyes. But EN doesn't encrypt (they have a kind of clunky encryption tool for sections of text). So if NS could encrypt, that would be a real advantage.
Mark
I'm really sorry about the problems all of you are experiencing. I never suffered from any of those, therefore I never thought about ow to solve such problems.
My intention was always to provide a service, not a tool. Users should only be required to login at NoteSelf service and nothing else , we will take care of all the behind the scenes (like any other service ). However I also wanted to provide a DIY option, and since that was the easiest I initially released that.
Sandly I never had the time to implement the service, and that's why so many people is confused trying to try the DIY solution.
I still want to provide such service, but until that arrives I want to apologise for all those confused users.Hope the community (and me from time to time in small spare time ) can help you to iron the path.
Sincerely
Sync error while processing '$:/StoryList': {"status":500,"name":"indexed_db_went_bad","message":"unknown","reason":"Failed to open indexedDB, are you in private browsing mode?"}
I'm not in private browsing mode.
I thought it might be because I wasn't logged into cloudant, but logging in didn't seem to fix it. Noteself seems to work fine in Chrome. I also turned off my add-blocker on github and cloudant. I'm wondering if I need to go through the settings and delete all the noteself/cloudant cookies, or ??
Thanks,
Mark