idea: click and doiuble click to close and close others

[Alex Hough]

HelloThere

The same icon could be used to close and close others, single click to close, double click to close others.

The double click on the icon could close all and open the tiddler in question for editing

good idea?

Alex

[Mat]

Adding...

Permalink
single: current tid
double: behave like permaview

Done (i.e tickmark in tiddler edit view)
single: normal behaviour
double: store + close without rendering the view mode.


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[PMario]

Hmmm,

How would you display a consistent "Tooltip".

close ... Close this tiddler
others ... Close other tiddlers

So for a fraction of a second you change it? .. Not funny. ...

What's about phone and tablets, where double clicking is almost removed. ...

IMO, the UI should go with the "Unix Principle No 1": Do one thing well.

So we should try to make TW simpler, instead of making it more complicated by adding inconsistency.

just some thoughts.

have fun!
mario

[Alex Hough]

Hi Mario,

I take the points

In another way I am trying to make it simpler for myself. To do just one think with my mind.

I want to make tiddlers as quick as possible, the make lists of them, and to rearrange them. I want to quickly create heirachies. I think I am building a brainstorming type app.

I am experimenting with drag and drop. I drag a tittle onto a button in TopLeftBar and I get a "new-here", a tiddler tagged with the dragged tiddler. The idea came to me when I was using my TW in the normal way: TW open in left had tab of a browser window. I visit another tab, then, copy some text and return to my TW tab. Normally I would have to click a new-here or new tiddler, I wanted to use a button which was just underneath the browser tab... that's how it started.

Currently the buttons are droppable. I drop a tiddler title onto the button to create a new tiddler of close it, or add a list icon to it. I've appropriated the TagPill to be more of a list. You can now rearrange tagged items in TagPill lists and "drag to tag". 

Once I started dragging, I found myself wanting to drag other things and for my drags to perform other actions.

Clicks seem more "final" in a way. And a double-click to clear the river so as to focus attention on a single tiddler seems to resemble a physical punctuation, a physical markup of the mental process perhaps.

I was thinking about Fitt's Law : 

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see http://universalprinciplesofdesign.com/examples/

My tiddling is more along the lines of an arts practice, developing a personal thinking tool. I am exploring the idea of making a UI which minimises hand eye coordination.

For me, the major effort (if we can call clicking buttons that) is finding the button and moving the curser arround. Once I have "got hold" of the tiddler I want to touch it, onto a droppable widget, click or doiuble click. I want to minimise movement or my eyes! I am getting old, they get sore after a while!

TiddlyMap uses double click for opening tiddlers from the map, maybe thats the place to mine for inspiration

Alex

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[Alex Hough]

@Mat

I was playing around with something similar to above.

Instead of click and double click, attached is a .tid and a TW I've been messing about with

In the top hand corner is a clone button, drag a title to clone.

Then there is a close button, a couple of lists and the drag to close, click for new "+ + +"

I was thinking how word "button"  constrained my thinking. Somehow I couldn't get my head around this thingy which had different behaviours depending of whether you click on it or drop onto it. I can't think of a physical world analogy

The benefit is that if you drag onto it and the click action naturally follows from the drag, you don't have to move your mouse curser.

Anyway... comments most welcome

best wishes

 

Alex