To tidlyWiki blog or not to blog

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TonyM

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May 5, 2020, 11:23:22 PM5/5/20
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Folks,


Although it is a real challenge at the moment, I try and work through every post in the forum and keep track of tiddlywiki developments. I collect plugins, and methods and macros and methods and are always looking at tiddlywiki as a platform and building the resources for rapid software development. In some ways this is why you see me contributing to questions and problems by not independently publishing solutions, although I expect this to change.


With this in mind and the rebirth of TiddlyWiki hangouts coming I thought perhaps this is the time to start a Blog, one that follows the activities in the forum and matters arising from the community, git hub and related projects.


I thought of a blog of my own based on tiddlywiki, which can also demonstrate the things we are talking about and share code and ideas. I am sure I could generate a lot of useful content but it could also eat my time up when in fact I should be seeking an income. 


So I had this thought what about a blog with multiple contributors?


There are three approaches that come to mind

  • I build a wordPress blog and invite authors who I give an account and we post that way
    • Of course we would look at linking to tiddlywiki's and embedding them if possible
  • I build a TiddlyWiki blog and accept content by email or forum post
  • I build a Tiddlywiki blog editor edition, people prepare posts on and send me their completed tiddlers
    • I then import them to a public tiddlywiki blog, adding static pages for seo.
What are your thoughts?


In the long run I have being keen to build a community site where we can collect and post on all aspects of tiddlywiki and my research suggests a sophisticated implementation of wordpress with knowledge of all aspects of tiddlywiki and with tiddlywiki integration, basicaly custom posts for macros, plugins, themes, libraries.... But I am reluctant to do this unless I build a team to do this.

Regards
Tony

Mat

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May 6, 2020, 2:29:57 AM5/6/20
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You should probably start it out as your own thing to show/impress people with how good it is and only then invite others. If the others had a big need to blog, then they would do so. IMO, the neat thing about a blog is that I own my data. I can update stuff, even remove embarrassments etc. The few times I've made guest contributions to other peoples blogs it's because their blog reaches an audience that I couldn't otherwise reach.


<:-)

TonyM

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May 6, 2020, 5:26:25 AM5/6/20
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Mat

Thanks for your thoughts. Perhaps consider for a moment if you had something to share, you often share good content in the forum, what do you think about sending an email, getting a WordPress Id or sending a json file?

I am thinking more of content for the tiddlywiki community rather named authors but that is worth thinking about. I wanted to openly take content from the forums, is that ok?

regards
Tony

Mat

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May 6, 2020, 6:14:16 AM5/6/20
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Perhaps consider for a moment if you had something to share, you often share good content in the forum, what do you think about sending an email, getting a WordPress Id or sending a json file?


I can only speak for myself so don't let my skepticism affect you too much but if I write something on the boards it is to either pose or answer a question or to announce something. They all rely on having an audience for them to be meaningful. For pieces worthy of publishing, as in a blog, I want it to be good so I typically spend a lot of time working on it. (Way more than what is obvious if you read it.) As such, I wouldn't want to send it somewhere if there wasn't a good audience there. Publishing it in my own blog (if I had one) would be a bit like writing in a diary (not that I ever had a diary, but) so it would be a more introspective matter. The articles are my babies and, as noted, I'd have full control over them for pruning and tweaking. I'd lose that control in someone elses blog.


I am thinking more of content for the tiddlywiki community rather named authors but that is worth thinking about.


I barely understand what that sentence means - and that relates to my point: Who would want to contribute to a blog if it isn't good? Would my stuff be intermingled with sentences like that one? Sorry for the directness but I it's probably better to hear this now than to later wonder why people (or at least Mat) aren't contributing. Of course, I know, that sentence is not part of a blog post but just a quick reply in a discussion :-)

But again, don't let my skepticism stop anything but I do think you should start it out yourself and just let the result itself be what attracts contributions.

 

I wanted to openly take content from the forums, is that ok?


I doubt anyone here has any personal objection to this but from a strictly legal standpoint I wouldn't be surprised if....


<:-)

Anne-Laure Le Cunff

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May 6, 2020, 11:10:49 AM5/6/20
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I tend to agree with Mat, but a model to consider would be DEV, where people can cross-post their articles and set the canonical link to their own blog so Google knows who to rank first.

TonyM

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May 6, 2020, 8:50:34 PM5/6/20
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Thanks for the feedback,

I think I will take this a bit slower, and build a blogging platform with the features I would like in a blog, keeping it inside tiddlywiki, and publish one with content in time. My key approach is to publish major releases, discussions and references to active forum activity and tips and tricks, many drawn from or inspired by the forums. I would acknowledge only by names given in the forum. Using tiddlywiki allows for direct examples, perhaps even for people to try things that were discussed, or copy text.

Anyway, in someways this thread has its answer, but regardless of if I use tiddlywiki comments, discord or DEV, Feel free to comment on what you think is essential components of a blog.

FYI: I recently made simple blog macro to list blog entries inside a given tiddler and discovered the joy of what I call Blog to Self, its a private blog for posting notes like a diary about things of concern, working notes or ideas I can harvest later. I will design one that stores posts according to the user name, so at some time in the future others may be imported/exported between wikis for collaboration.

Discus is a commenting thread we have a macro for and integrates with wordpress so perhaps I will revisit that.

Regards
Tony

ChristianB

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May 6, 2020, 9:00:26 PM5/6/20
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I would be interested to see what a tiddlywiki blog might look like... Go for it !

As an aside question - is there any thoughts on building a secure node.js version or plugin for TW ?  Something that you can logon to in order to be an author of a shared TW site ? Would that work similar to the wordpress idea ?

I know there are some options with TW on node to specify named users etc - but it did seem pretty limited - it would be cool to have it run with google passports etc 

Cheers
CB
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