[Requesting feedback] Customizer plugin

[David Gifford]

Hi everyone

I am almost done with the Customizer plugin. Requesting any feedback before I write the instructions, package the plugins, and package the addons.

https://giffmex.org/experiments/sidebar.concept.part.2.html

Thanks to Mohammad for help with converting it to a single button with two tabs.

Note that the backlinks options and sidebar options I have listed will be independent of the plugin, available as add-ons.

There is now the ability to reorder sidebar segments right in the sidebar tab of the Customizer button.

I also created a prototype of a Book tools sidebar (glossary, bibliography, table of contents).

Anyone can create custom view template elements and sidebar segments by tagging a tiddler $:/giffmex/viewtemplate or $:/giffmex/sidebarsegments, so if you don't like my baclkink stuff and sidebar stuff, you can make your own and even share them on your own sites to use with this plugin. I am trying to make this as flexible and usable as possible.

Blessings, Dave

[ArchiMark]

Hi Dave,

I'm just a TW newb, but looks great and very useful to me.

Look forward to seeing instructions, plugins, addons.....

Best wishes,

Mark

[strikke...@gmail.com]

Dave,

Looking nice and working well. I must admit though, that I would very much prefer it in the right side. The drop-down position being the problem.

That could be the reason for me to prefer to use it with the menubar plugin, where using the dropdown-position field solves that problem.

Thank you for all your hard work on this very, very good idea.

Birthe

[scot]

Well done Dave, very neat and clean.

A request, if I may,

I would like your customizer plugin to include the option of hiding the save button, similar to the Ton Gerner  Readonly plugin at

http://80.56.108.132/TW5/TW5_playground.html#Readonly%20plugin

Not only avoiding screen clutter, but allowing a private view for TW.

Scot

[David Gifford]

@Scot

Yes, I don't want that button there, but for the moment, every little checkbox makes it go red, and many of the configurations users might want, hide the sidebar button. So it needs to be handy, unless someone shows me how to change the plugin so that saving happens automatically. I could move the button to the two tabs so that it is not showing in the topbar. Would that work for you?

David Gifford

Mexico team leader, Mexico City

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[scot]

@David

Ton's plugin puts the button on "Save" Tab in control panel.

Help page at http://80.56.108.132/TW5/TW5_playground.html#%24%3A%2Fplugins%2Ftg%2Fro%2Fhelp

Scot

[David Gifford]

No, I don't want to combine it with another plugin. And a save button doesn't do much good hidden somewhere in the control panel.

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[David Gifford]

@Birthe, I would like to move the button to the right. But there are two problems:

1. When the button is to the right, the dropdown moves offscreen to the right, and I don't know how to position it correctly. I did a few web searches and also mentioned that I would love for someone to show me how to do that, but no luck yet.

I tried the following class, including adjustments to the position and the left properties, and nothing

.drop-down-right {

min-width: 380px; border: 1px solid #bbb; background-color: #ffffff; padding: 7px; margin: 5px; white-space: nowrap; text-shadow: none; line-height: 1.4;

position: absolute; z-index: 80; top: 20px; left: 500px; }

2. The dropdowns will cover the sidebar, so users won't be able to see changes there until they close the dropdown. That is not good. So I think the best solution would be to default have the button to the left, but have a way for users to apply $:/tags/TopRightBar and have the "right side dropdown" stylesheet automatically kick in.

3. Again, this is all beyond my current knowledge. Others are developers with extensive knowledge that can just pop stuff out. I am a non-developer person who does this as a hobby, fights an uphill battle, and needs a lot of help to make it happen. I do what I can, and don't have a lot of time to learn to do what I can't. My best learning is from looking at snippets others have created, then tweaking them. But I can at least tell when something will be helpful to others and see in my mind what it needs to look like and function like, even if I can't make it happen on my own.

[scot]

@David

As you suggest, moving the save button to one of the two tabs would work for me. (can these be protected, by a password maybe) so only admin can change config settings.

I am not suggesting that you combine customizer with Ton's Readonly plugin, just offering an example of how it's achieved elsewhere.

Regarding the save tab, Ton suggest putting the plugin in some other page, say xyz and transcuding the plugin into that page. The plugin then offers all config settings. If the TW is started with sidebars hidden on startup, opening TW.html#xyz allows the user to change the settings if needed.

Regards,

Scot

[David Gifford]

Thanks Scot, I will look into these things. Blessings.

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[David Gifford]

Moved this project forward a bit. It should be much easier to see what I am going for, re: add-ons. https://giffmex.org/experiments/sidebar.concept.part.2.html

[clutterstack]

Looking nice, David. I think this will help make TW more friendly to newcomers. The "create your own add-ons" tab is intriguing!

Best,

Chris