Are There Any Plans to Revive the Tiddlywiki Hangouts?

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RichardWilliamSmith

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Aug 23, 2017, 3:07:55 AM8/23/17
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The Tiddlywiki hangouts were always in the middle of the night for me, but I did enjoy watching them after the fact - are there any plans to revive them?

What I'm really wondering is whether there has been any recent discussion (perhaps at the 'european meetup'?) about the intended direction of the project. Is there anything online I might have missed? What's the most recent thing we have that is akin to a 'roadmap'?

Richard

Jeremy Ruston

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Aug 23, 2017, 5:18:30 AM8/23/17
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Hi Richard

The Tiddlywiki hangouts were always in the middle of the night for me, but I did enjoy watching them after the fact - are there any plans to revive them?

Thanks, it’s good to know that you enjoyed them. They have tended towards sprawling unstructuredness and so I do worry that it’s hard for people to fillet out the good bits.

For quite a while I was managing to have a hangout every week but they tailed off a couple of years ago when I was briefly commuting to London every day instead of working at home. I’ve made sporadic attempts to re-establish the hangouts since then but haven’t really managed to sustain them.

To get them started again I think I need to once again adopt a strict weekly rhythm. I think it’s just a matter of getting started...

What I'm really wondering is whether there has been any recent discussion (perhaps at the 'european meetup'?) about the intended direction of the project. Is there anything online I might have missed? What's the most recent thing we have that is akin to a 'roadmap’?

Good question. TW5 is now a pretty broad and mature platform. Over the last two years the pattern has been a steady stream of background incremental improvements and bug fixes, overlaid with one or two biggish areas of new functionality each year like the editor toolbar, AWS plugin, TextSlicer, XLSX plugin, QR Code plugin.

Most of those bigger improvements are separate plugins. We’re only occasionally seeing big changes that are integrated across the core, such as the editor toolbar or the improved drag and drop features. The reason is that those kinds of features are now quite expensive to implement. In the case of the editor toolbar, I had the basics up and running in a couple of weeks but it took several months to get the thing stable and working adequately in all the situations it was needed.

Meanwhile, over the last couple of years the work I’ve been doing in my day job has shifted towards being more TiddlyWiki-centric, in particular delivering services based on TiddlyWiki to clients. I’ve learned the intricacies of programming for Amazon’s “serverless” model, and have now built the first versions of a sort of descendent of TiddlySpace.

So, there’s definitely a lot going on that would be good to discuss in a hangout…

Best wishes

Jeremy



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@TiddlyTweeter

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Aug 23, 2017, 8:58:20 AM8/23/17
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Ciao Richard & Jeremy

TBH, I'd prefer Hangouts that were much more tightly TOPIC SPECIFIC. I don't think it matters at all if that means they are only 10 minutes long. Nor do I think it matters if its two people or twenty. As was they were not always that interesting to watch unless you could fast-forward to the "interesting bits for me" and without a YouTube Index that's hard.

Best wishes
Josiah

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Aug 23, 2017, 10:04:09 AM8/23/17
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I prefer that this sort of videos be both short and specific. 10 minutes is, to me, ideal. If it is longer, I generally avoid such things. That's just my opinion.

Probably why I don't pay much attention Youtube.

Thomas Elmiger

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Aug 23, 2017, 2:28:19 PM8/23/17
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Just a note to support the topic specific shorter hangouts, that would be great!

Cheers, Thomas

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