GG Tags -- Question? Should these be tagged "sticky?" Case examples.

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@TiddlyTweeter

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Oct 25, 2019, 10:21:13 AM10/25/19
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Long term users will have noticed that I curate occasional  posts that are about reflection about, and general appreciation of, TW ...

Some of us are discussing improving tags here so all users can find things more easily. 
So, I ask: would you want either of these threads tagged as "sticky"? 
(a kind of end-user defined "pin ").
Josiah

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Oct 25, 2019, 10:24:00 AM10/25/19
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Repeat for email users ... 

Birthe C

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Oct 25, 2019, 11:36:14 AM10/25/19
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Hi Josiah,

You put an important question. I love your threads, love to read what other love about Tiddlywiki, and always like a smile or something to laugh at. But still I would not want them tagged as "sticky". I find it important to find some common ground in this matter. If too many threads are tagged sticky it could end up being no help at all.


Birthe

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Oct 25, 2019, 11:53:40 AM10/25/19
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Ciao Birthe

RIGHT. Exactly the point. I agree that actually those threads are "transients", not persisters.

However, IF using tags will to overcome GG limitations there needs be some kind of consistent idea about scope.

If not it will become useless mush.

BUT, would you, for instance, think THIS should be "sticky?" ... The-book. Weekly report. ??

Best wishes
TT

Birthe C

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Oct 25, 2019, 12:27:36 PM10/25/19
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It should be tagged sticky, yes!

Birthe

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Oct 25, 2019, 12:36:48 PM10/25/19
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I agree. That is a useful clue.

HansWobbe

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Oct 25, 2019, 5:42:30 PM10/25/19
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@ Josiah:

Please consider that any (unique) string can be used as a effective Search target.  It does not have to be a Tag (since there is a limit to the number of Tags that can be applied to a Post.  e.g. Search for GgTwHw = G(oogle) g(roups) T(iddly) w(iki) H(ans) w(obbe) and you should just get the two responses that show this Post and the little test I am working on.

I've been using this trickery for years to place my personal (generally Subject_Time) tags on tweets since that effectively makes twitter a great repository for anything that I might want to retrieve latter.  One enhancement is that if I end up with a heavily used string, I simply extend it with a few more (meaningful) characters since increasing the length of the target string correspondingly increases the precision of the search. 

It's a QuickAndDirty trick, but I find it invaluable; especially when combined with IfTtt applets that execute whenever a tweet with a specific tag appears.

Think of it as building a MicroBotAgentArmy :-)

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ℋ(ans)




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Oct 26, 2019, 4:10:38 AM10/26/19
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Ciao ℋ(ans)


HansWobbe wrote:
Please consider that any (unique) string can be used as a effective Search target.  It does not have to be a Tag (since there is a limit to the number of Tags that can be applied to a Post.  e.g. Search for GgTwHw = G(oogle) g(roups) T(iddly) w(iki) H(ans) w(obbe) and you should just get the two responses that show this Post and the little test I am working on.

Right. But isn't that approach more about finding your own posts? I've done that a bit myself. By, for instance, using an ODD string on posts sometimes, e.g. "Houston, I have a problem". That helps ME find my posts. But it does not help anyone else as they won't know my weird phrase ... ?

My tentative idea with using tags more is to NARROW the search scope so you don't get deluged in irrelevant items. 
But it is best be used with a text search too. Here is an example that illustrates a decent narrow result: tag:announcement AND tag:resource AND "regexp"...

If you just entered "regexp" you'd just get swamped. So tags, I think, may help us. The downside is tagging is voluntary on post. The upside is ANY user can add them later.

I've been using this trickery for years to place my personal (generally Subject_Time) tags on tweets since that effectively makes twitter a great repository for anything that I might want to retrieve latter. 

As a heavy user of Twitter i agree. Its hashtaggery is particularly succinct. Same goes for Telegram. 
 
It's a QuickAndDirty trick, but I find it invaluable; especially when combined with IfTtt applets that execute whenever a tweet with a specific tag appears.

Right! But what I'm trying to focus on most is getting best out of GG standard search :-). 

Think of it as building a MicroBotAgentArmy :-)

Do you know if there is a searchBot in IFTTT for GG?

Best wishes
TT 

HansWobbe

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Oct 26, 2019, 6:39:22 PM10/26/19
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Ciao TT:

My tentative idea with using tags more is to NARROW the search scope so you don't get deluged in irrelevant items. But it is best be used with a text search too. Here is an example that illustrates a decent narrow result: tag:announcement AND tag:resource AND "regexp"...

  • I think this example of yours actually illustrates what I am trying to say, since it shows a search that is a logical combination of Tags and a text String.  In effect, an interested Poster could use any combination of the enabled Tags + a String (personal or commonly understood) to craft a very specific search.  After all, a "word" in any language is just a commonly understood string of alphabetic letters.  The "magic" could even be hidden within a named HyperLink (as you've done).
  • I will strive to contrive some meaningful examples.

Cheers,
Hans

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