tw5 include feature

[stefan infp]

I know TW5 doesn't support include plugin. Is there any way (TiddlyDesktop? or other solution) to search for tags and content terms inside multiple TW5 wikis? I would like to link multiple TW5 wikis together. By storing personal data fragmented in multiple TW5 wikis would not slow and freeze the browser. Yet I don't know any solution how to handle tons of text, pdfs and linked images stored in multiple TW5 wikis, filter and view them in a practical way. Any hope to have a feature that let us drag an image or file into TW5 wiki and automatically create a link (not to embed the external file inside the wiki) to that external file? Thanks

[Tobias Beer]

Hi Stefan,

Afaik, no such thing exists as of yet.

Options for the future could be:

• have TiddlyDesktop index all wikis in the background and provide global search
• implement a node module that indexes wiki folders and provides a means to search / filter / build a meta-wiki from all wikis in the collection

Either perhaps equivalent to Erwan's community search providing an index of the aggregated results as a wiki which can be worked with TiddlyWiki style and references tiddlers in those other wikis.

Best wishes,

— tb

[stefan infp]

Thanks for the quick response. Maybe soon this problem will be solved it would be a time saving feature. I see here many users writing about wikis of the size of 10-60 MB, but when there are thousands of tiddlers in a single file with linked images, videos everything becomes so slow, the only solution would be tons of small wikis and a master wiki that links all together, searches and opens the selected ones (in a new window).

[Erwan]

Hi Stefan,

If you are comfortable using the command line, you should look into the possibilities offered by the Node.js version of TW. It seems to me that this would fit your needs quite well:

- you can open "standalone HTML" wikis with the --load command, see http://tiddlywiki.com/#LoadCommand

- you can configure a node.js wiki to open other node.js wiki folders, see http://tiddlywiki.com/#TiddlyWikiFolders

In my opinion this is perfect if you only need to read data (for example searching for content) in your "aggregated wiki". If you want to be able to modify or create new tiddlers, be careful because they will be stored in the main wiki and not the "sub-wikis". The other possible issue is if you have tiddlers from different wikis with the same title.

The node.js version offers even a lot more flexibility than that if you write your own scripts to to automatize some tasks from outside TW. In case you are interested this is how the CommunitySearch wiki is done, and the code is on github (Bash scripts, tested only under Linux).

Cheers
Erwan

On 07/11/15 12:10, stefan infp wrote:

Thanks for the quick response. Maybe soon this problem will be solved it would be a time saving feature. I see here many users writing about wikis of the size of 10-60 MB, but when there are thousands of tiddlers in a single file with linked images, videos everything becomes so slow, the only solution would be tons of small wikis and a master wiki that links all together, searches and opens the selected ones (in a new window).

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[Erwan]

Just a thought: this kind of possibility would also be a nice future feature in TiddlyDesktop, wouldn't it?
I know absolutely nothing about the implementation, but I assume that there is no technical limitation to that?

Erwan

On 07/11/15 06:16, stefan infp wrote:

I know TW5 doesn't support include plugin. Is there any way (TiddlyDesktop? or other solution) to search for tags and content terms inside multiple TW5 wikis? I would like to link multiple TW5 wikis together. By storing personal data fragmented in multiple TW5 wikis would not slow and freeze the browser. Yet I don't know any solution how to handle tons of text, pdfs and linked images stored in multiple TW5 wikis, filter and view them in a practical way. Any hope to have a feature that let us drag an image or file into TW5 wiki and automatically create a link (not to embed the external file inside the wiki) to that external file? Thanks

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[stefan infp]

Many times I was thinking to use TWC instead of TW5 because of the include plugin. The problems were that TWC  is much much older than TW5, doesn't have those modern features as the newer version and maybe soon it won't be operable because of rapidly changing browsers (the new Chrome v46 says that the Java plugin used by TWC is not supported from 1 sept 2015) (especially if I load tons of info inside it and spend ex. >1000-... hours during the following years). Why TiddlyWiki? Because of the hardware and OS (Android) limitations of today smartphones I have not enough space to save all my online data from Evernote offline to the internal storage of the phone (to SD card is not possible) and because there is no current application that can handle and display text, audio, video, image data correctly except TiddlyWiki (both on smartphone and pc offline stored on SD card). TW is an "application" and data container in one package. I tried pdf (including portfolio), maff, mht, etc. formats, these have many advantages and disadvantages too. One cannot store all the info I want, the other cannot be indexed, searched in Windows Explorer, Android .... 

I am looking for an universal file format or a way to preserve webpages, store text, audio, video, image data, link, index, search, view and manage them easily.

I was looking for an OS level tagging tool, none was the right for me. Some tools can offer Explorer features to add tags to all types of files, but these tags cannot be transferred to other OS-es.

Wordpress on localhost is almost perfect for my needs, the single problem is that it can become extremely slow if I put large number of media files inside it (locally, even if I disable thumbnails generation).

The tagging feature of TW is amazing and powerful, its very flexible, practical and attractive. Only the lack of the include plugin feature is the problem. I heard its not possible to use with current TW because of security reasons of browsers.

The node version of TW is not so user friendly being command line and this could be a problem when I want only to quickly save what I read and jump to another article. As I saw it stores all imported media files in one place this could lead a large mess, the tiddlers are stored separately each one (this one is really cool). I also would need a manual with the commands I can use in node to manage the database. 

There could be one not so practical but still a solution: the creation of many small TW5 files, the indexing and searching of it with Windows Explorer and the opening of the desired one. This solution does not offer comfortable filtering and previewing of tiddlers at all as TW5 does and it could be a time consuming problem when I have ex. 5000 or more TW5 wikis.