Recents tab out of order

[Dave]

Why would the recents tab get out of order like this? (see attached)

Here's the order of dates from top to bottom: 

3rd November 2019

2nd November 2019

15th December 2019

12th December 2019

11th December 2019

10th December 2019

9th December 2019

5th December 2019

4th December 2019

3rd December 2019

13th December 2019

28th November 2019

etc.

[Ton Gerner]

Hi Dave,

May be an overridden shadow tiddler $:/core/ui/MoreSideBar/Recent?

Check with Controlpanel > Info > Basics

Click at the bottom the Advanced search icon next to the number of overridden shadow tiddlers.

Hope that helps.

Cheers,

Ton

[PMario]

Hi,

Recent means "recently edited" so it depends on the "modified" field.

-m

[Dave]

Ton, here's my finding (see attached): there's no "recent" in there but there is the "default sidebar tab" which has a TableOfContents in there (but it worked before this)

The  weird thing is that when I go to the "More" tab, the recents there is correct

[Ton Gerner]

Hi Dave,

On Monday, December 16, 2019 at 5:53:25 PM UTC+1, Dave wrote:

Ton, here's my finding (see attached): there's no "recent" in there but there is the "default sidebar tab" which has a TableOfContents in there (but it worked before this)

The  weird thing is that when I go to the "More" tab, the recents there is correct

 

Upon inspection the (sidebar) Recent tab ($:/core/ui/SideBar/Recent) and the More > Recent tab ($:/core/ui/MoreSideBar/Recent) are different tiddlers (and with different tags $:/tags/SideBar & $:/tags/MoreSideBar) but contain the same code:

<$macrocall $name="timeline" format={{$:/language/RecentChanges/DateFormat}}/>

It looks like $:/core/ui/SideBar/Recent is in the list of overridden shadow tiddlers (at least I see it in your picture).

If that is the case, just delete $:/core/ui/SideBar/Recent and the original shadow tiddler will be active again.

[Dave]

Thank you - that worked!

Mental note: if a built-in function is not working (you get that "don't mess with shadow tiddlers" edit message) deleting that tiddler will (probably) reset things

[Dave]

I'd mark this "Complete" but I don't see how to do that

[Mark S.]

The only lingering question is whether there was a reason for that tiddler to have been altered ;-)

[Dave]

I suspect its because I use a taboo combination: Bob + Syncthing and sometimes Bob and Syncthing clash and alter some of my tiddlers.

"If you're not living on the edge you're taking up too much room" ;)

[Dave]

Hi, my problem is back. I somehow got it fixed (see above) on one computer, but the same "solution" didn't work on other instances. Here's a screenshot of a section of my Recent tab (yes, I changed the date format to see if that would make a difference, but no luck there). I assume the slight offset in the modified dates vs the timeline dates is due to the UTC thing TW does.

in timeline:

• Nov 29
  • AgendaTweaking
• Dec 30
  • other tiddlers including another thing
• Nov28
  • datePicker2

in the files:

• AgendaTweaking
  • modified: 20191130000655910
• another thing
  • modified: 20191230154836798
• datePicker2
  • modified: 20191129013329823

file system modified dates:

• AgendaTweaking
  • Dec 6
• another thing
  • Dec 30
• datePicker2
  • Dec 6

Could it be interference from a plugin? maybe $:/plugins/telmiger/MyStory ?

p.s., sorry for the weird formatting, I prewrote this in a tiddler and that's the color theme on my TW 

[Thomas Elmiger]

Hi Dave,

The MyStory plugin does not overwrite any core tiddlers so I cannot imagine it is part of the problem nor the solution. What other plugins do you use?

Other things I noticed in your report:

• Difference between file system dates and dates in the files: The modified field of AgendaTweaking and datePicker2 are not up to date obviously. TW has a button to suspend timestamp updates since version 5.1.14, maybe you should check this?
• You seem to be working around midnight according to the timestamps (depending on your timezone, this could be wrong) – I experienced problems with time calculations myself at some point in time with times close to midnight. Maybe try other times to save again and see if the problem persists. (And make sure you get enough sleep ;–) that helped me a lot.)
  
• What is datePicker2 anyway? Are you developing something?

All the best for your life on the edge,

Thomas

[Dave]

Thanks Thomas,

I didn't know about the time update suspension, so I'll look into that.

I'm not at my computer right now but I'll get a list of other plugins later today.

Ha ha, no I'm only a yellow belt tiddlywikier - datePicker2 is just a slightly modified version that gives a differently formatted date.

I'm wondering, maybe I should research how to export all my non-system tiddlers into a new wiki. I'm pretty sure Bob has that capability...

- Dave

[Dave]

I'm on the beta bobExe (1.4), and as I just sit and watch the recents tab (Synthing is off) the date headers on it actually shift around while I'm doing nothing and the computer is making noises, so I'll try going back to 1.3 and see if that fixes it.

[Dave]

fyi, going back to Bob 1.3.3b did stop the active shifting around of the date headers in the recent tab, but they're still out of order