TiddlyGov - large scale government intranet

[Merging Codes]

What would be the best way to set up a large intranet for government using tiddlywiki? I want to put together a pitch about using TW for knowledge management.

This will hopefully give an idea of the IT resources at hand:

https://developer.gov.bc.ca/Data-and-APIs/BC-Government-API-Guidelines

https://developer.gov.bc.ca/Getting-Started-on-the-DevOps-Platform/BC-Government-OpenShift-Container-Platform-Service-Definition

[Riz]

You need to contact Jeremy directly. He offers setting up such projects through Federatial.

Sincerely,

Riz

[HansWobbe]

"Merging Codes":

I am quite intrigued by this idea of yours.  In fact, enough so, that I am even prepared to collaborate and help prepare such a presentation.

For your information, Elections BC is a DataFix customer (along with all of the other Provincial Elections Authorities west of Quebec, about 1/2 of the ones east of Quebec, and some 330 Cities).  You may be aware of the fact that many Elections Authorities are considering options to traditional voting practices given the tragic example of Wisconsin's recent election.. One alternative that is receiving a lot of attention is Vote By Mail.  That, of course, will raise the bar for Canadian Address Quality standards.

For various reasons we are now discussing the development of an all inclusive "Address Management, Canada" (AdManCa) database and related API based services.

I'd be happy to "brainstorm" further how TiddlyWiki may fit into all of this.

Cheers,

Hans

[TonyM]

Merging Codes,

As with Hans I am intrigued. Your links are primarily to coding standards and hosting options. I am not sure what "large intranet for government using tiddlywiki" is conceived as. Riz points out that Jeremy has put an Amazon web service solution together with a lot of content for, I think, legal resources. So I believe he is the only one that is done this at scale, but I think Jeds Bob is running in a team environment.

The potential scope for the needs of a government Intranet are vast, and whilst tiddlywikis possibilities are vast, I do consider tiddlywiki a platform, I still feel the multi-user multi-access and security of tiddlywiki may not work well with a large intranet except in so far as publishing individual websites or software tools.

But if I knew more about what a Government Intranet would need... other than my own guessing.

Whilst I say Tiddlywiki may not be suitable, I continue to develop the idea of using tiddlywiki as a "business intelligence" environment. I am interested in loosely coupled tiddlywikis and using tiddlywiki to generate sites. I suppose what I am saying at this point in time such an application as a large intranet is in tiddlywikis future, but not here now. But we may start somewhere so it becomes in its future.

I have build extensive SharePoint Intranet sites, even tiddlywiki on top of sharepoint for a paid customer, but tiddlywiki is still seems only a niche solution at this point.

I too am intrigued about the idea of using it as an intranet environment and will give it more thought.

To  me it is a matter of scaling whilst keeping the modularity.

Regards

Tony

[Merging Codes]

Hello Tony and Hans

Thank you for your suggestions and interest.

I want to know how to host tiddlywikis using the resources/platforms currently used by the BC government.

I don't foresee security being much of a concern.  Just logins like the Anna Freud manuals.  It sounds like Jeremy has what I am looking for.  I will follow up with him.  

As for what I have in mind. 

• the why of this project is to democratize and liberate knowledge, creativity, collaboration and innovation.

• the what is twofold
• we extract all information from the current paper-based containers (Word, PDF, Email, NoteBook, etc) and place them in tiddlywikis
• we stop putting information in said containers

• the how is we empower and encourage every public servant the time and permission to
• go through their email and extract everything of value worth keeping
• collectively come up with a plan to go through all of the information in the programs are

It is past my bedtime and my brain went to bed on time so that is all I have for now!   Perhaps we could Zoom or, better yet, meet in Mozilla Hubs and chat about it.  It will take a lot less time, at least on my end.  Here is a room I set up using the scene the BCDev Exchange Lab set up to do virtual tours of their lab: hub.link/5wAjqxj  

Thanks,

Mark

(aka Merging Codes)

[TonyM]

Happy to Discuss - you may need to use timeanddate.com because I am in Sydney +8 UTC/GMT