NestedSliderPlugin from ClassicTW to TW5

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Alvin

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Nov 5, 2020, 5:01:15 PM11/5/20
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I'm a long-time user of ClassicTW, and I'm trying to start using TW5. One of my favorite plugins was NestedSliderPlugin, but of course it doesn't work in TW5, and I'm not sure I would understand how to install it if it did.  Is there a TW5 replacement? If so, how would I install it? And, for that matter, would I use it the same way?

Thank you.

TW Tones

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Nov 5, 2020, 9:07:56 PM11/5/20
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Alvin,

There are various ways to achieve the same thing, the nested slider was useful but depending on how you want to use it there are different solutions.

I will have a look for a simple answer, we have some on their way but perhaps others have some "out of the box".

Perhaps you could start with the details plugin https://tid.li/tw5/plugins.html#DetailsWidget

Do you just want to reveal text in the current tiddler with a click?

Regards
Tones

springer

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Nov 5, 2020, 9:09:12 PM11/5/20
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Alvin, others will have better answers, but I was in exactly your position a year ago -- a late upgrader with quite a few plugin dependencies worked into about 14 years'-worth of TiddlyWiki Classic projects. (Nested Sliders, and the combination of aliases and Redirect Macro, were core to my workflow.)

I couldn't find anything that converted my existing tiddlers over to an equivalent TW5 function; that is, all the +++ and === syntax in TWClassic had to be reworked more or less manually, if I recall correctly. 

Also, I should warn you that the word "Slider" has gotten used for multiple functions, so searching for it leads down some dead-ends.

There are various solutions though. What I ended up choosing is TElmiger's Details Widget, discussed in this thread: https://groups.google.com/g/tiddlywiki/c/sRUVnlIaT3E

You can find more info here: https://tid.li/tw5/hacks.html#DetailsWidget

It's not nearly as quick to deploy on the fly (in terms of typing out markdown like +++ and ===), but the tradeoff is that it's more powerful, at least for my purposes.

I'll post this for now, in case you want to check that out. Meanwhile, others might chime in with what works for them, and I'll also keep an eye out for follow-up questions.

-Springer

Mohammad

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Nov 6, 2020, 12:13:13 AM11/6/20
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Hi Alvin,
Have you tried display on demand in Shiraz


You can simply create nested sliders and you customize its look and feel.

--Mohammad

Alvin Orzechowski

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Nov 7, 2020, 9:54:07 AM11/7/20
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When I followed the link to DetailsWidget info, Springer, I found this.

screenshot 2020110701.jpg

I'm not fluent in TW5 yet, so that Save-Button Position box looks suspicious.

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springer

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Nov 7, 2020, 10:11:34 AM11/7/20
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Alvin, it's true that telmiger's site has not been made neat for visitors, and has elements that are distracting. The pop-up reminder/scheduling window you see is not related to the details widget, but I understand why you'd be apprehensive. 

Mohammad's plugins, by contrast, are very well-maintained and documented. You can't go wrong with exploring Shiraz, which has many other functions beyond the details ("show on demand") function. Shiraz is superb, and I regularly use several functions in it, especially Dynamic Tables.

I can no longer recall why I ended up relying on telmiger's details widget -- it may simply be a matter of what I found and implemented first. (It also may have been a worry about whether the Shiraz sliders "nest" and/or have great flexibility in the "guts" of what's shown on demand.)

Although it's a big effort to convert a large tiddlywiki that relies on the old "Nested Sliders" syntax, I think you'll be impressed by the responsiveness of TW5 once you get up and running. Cheers!

-Springer

springer

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Nov 7, 2020, 10:20:06 AM11/7/20
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Alvin, I see that Tones had offered you a *better* telmiger link than the one I sent. I didn't know about that one; it's more "public-facing" (and explicitly dedicated to the sharing plugins) than the site I had found (which had been shared here at some point earlier in its development). 

So please forget the link I posted and use the one Tones posted: 

TW Tones

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Nov 7, 2020, 3:53:16 PM11/7/20
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Folks,

The html details tag seems to work better now at least in the pre-release. In both this and the widget ensure you have a blank line follow the content to get it to render in block mode.

Tones
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