Re: [TW5] Best up-to-date & stable data visualization plugin (e.g. json) for charts?

[David Gifford]

That d3 plugin got me really excited about TiddlyWiki 5. There was talk of making plugins for various data visualizations. But to my knowledge they never materialized. Let's hope someone takes up the challenge.

Dave

On Tuesday, September 27, 2016 at 6:33:41 PM UTC-5, NT wrote:

Hi there. I was looking for some viz plugins and thought this should be an easy task.

But I found that the d3 plugin is still a proof of concept and other plugins are outdated, for TWc, experimental, without tw5 docs, or not made for data charts.

So I am looking for just one data visualization technology - probably in form of a TW5 plugin.
It should be
* stable - beta is ok, but please not experimental
* with docs for setup and usage in TW5
and optionally
* with support for representation of external json tiddlers
* and short, easy to use syntax

With chart I mean things like bar chart, pie chart, line chart and so on.

I would be very pleased, if there are any recommendations around :-)
THX

[Jed Carty]

I have made a few things using both d3 and Snap.SVG for data visualization, but I don't think any of it is even in the beta stage yet. If you come up with a good list of requirements than I may make that my next project. I think that my Snap.SVG plugin is a bit too ambitious without some help at least on the UI side of things so starting smaller would be a good idea. The tiny bit I did with the d3 plugin is here.

[Albert]

I'm in the same situation that David, I would love to port some kind of charting library (like plotlyjs) but don't have the knowledge to do so.

5.1.13 has implemented a lot of plugins that improve usability for non-programmers, I think this is very useful and can contribute to grow the community. A solid charting plugin would be a killer! 

El miércoles, 28 de septiembre de 2016, 13:56:30 (UTC+2), NT escribió:

Jed, thanks! Yes I've found your work before, but it looked experimental - as I told.
Now, I am thinking about working on d3 integration in tw5 as well. I'll figure out that possibility during October, it's not for sure a.t.m. In this case, will there be a private way to reach you?

So really guys, there is no working data chart solution available for tw5, currently - despite of d3??

[Jed Carty]

My biggest problem for making a plugin like that is that I am used to making my own tools and can throw together exactly what I want in a situation. I have found that this actually makes me very bad at figuring out what would be useful as a general purpose tool because I always assume that if I need something I don't have I can just make something new. So if you want something like this the place to start would be a good requirements document. A well written requirements document greatly reduces the amount of development time needed.

[Jed Carty]

I am not sure what gave you that impression, I made a single demo using d3 before moving on to play with other toys. The reason was, as always, because it was there and I could. 

[Albert]

Hi NT, I did a lot of research on charting libraries. By far, the most complete is: https://plot.ly/javascript/ (MIT license)

It would be awesome to have the power of plotly in TW... !

Reards,

El jueves, 29 de septiembre de 2016, 1:04:44 (UTC+2), NT escribió:

Jed, I totally understand your straight forward way of working and the problems to make something more general for other people. I know, it's a very different thing. You are right, a requirements document would be the right thing here, at least. If I think d3 would be the best way to go I probably would make up my mind about requirements. But I am not at this point, already.
For some reason you are keen to solve charting with d3. Why? I mean I have no clue about alternatives and maybe your reasons are good - just want to know.
Why not all the others that crossed my way like
* raphael.js
* graphviz
* vis.js
* ...
Is d3 most powerful, most easy to integrate, most spreaded technology? Sorry, no clue and time for research now.
Indeed I'll have a look back just on sunday, because I'll be busy until then.
Would be nice to get some more info in the meantime. Thanks to all.

[Shane Leonard]

Hi all,

I am working on a plot.ly plugin for TiddlyWiki, and just wanted to check if anyone in this group has already made any progress in this respect. I am new to TW5 plugin development and there are some quirks about plotly specifically, so if you have any wise words, I'm all ears. I'll be starting a new thread for this topic as well, so if you're interested, you can follow along there (I'll post the link here shortly).

Best,

Shane

[Shane Leonard]

Here is the link to the plotly plugin development thread in TiddlyWikiDev.