My circa 2012 devices are sluggish with TW, but usable in some situations.
... Syncthing *usually* works pretty well, though sometimes it needs to be restarted. The thing is, it's really overkill because it encrypts everything in transit.
TW is not usually good for quick look-ups because loading time is so long. But it is OK for persistent reference (like a recipe or book passages) where you're going to have it on the same set of tiddlers for awhile. As an e-reader, it's slow to load. But then, so is Kindle (because Kindle always wants to check the net).
For sending data back to the home machine, it's best if your TW app consists of checkboxes or small fields (like calorie counters, todo check-offs).
TW loads most quickly and formats most correctly with AndTidWiki. AndTidWiki can still save.
... AndTidWiki will only allow you to have one TW open at a time, which is a problem if you want to go back and forth.
... Sometimes AndTidWiki won't be able to load a TW file. A trick I've learned is to go into the RAM manager and clear the memory. After that AndTidWiki will run OK.
I'm not sure that the latest versions of FF can use any of the save extensions -- that shows how seldom I use TW on FF for input...
Firefox doesn't format correctly on my devices. In particular, when you zoom in on text the text goes off screen rather than formatting to the new edge.
This is why I developed the Quick 8 app for changing fonts and saving their settings. But, with FF you can have multiple tabs open.
One of the biggest problems with Android apps, especially browsers, or at least on my devices, is that Android can decide at any time to close some "background" task. You can hop from a TW on FF to just take a quick peak at a phone log, weather report, or ebook, and when you pop back, your FF session has closed and you've lost all your tabs (but not always, mysteriously it sometimes remembers them). Then you have to find your bookmark, load your page, etc.
In general, TW performance on Android is not as good as native apps like Simplenote, Evernote, etc.
The various improvements to TW have weighted it down to about 2.5 Megs -- the size of a substantial reference ebook. And that's before any data is added.
... Perhaps there needs to be a TW-lite edition for small devices, though I don't know what features I would want to ditch.
... I'm not sure that the latest versions of FF can use any of the save extensions --
Rank OS 2017 units share 2016 units share 2015 units share
1 (1) Android 2,696 M 81% 2,560 M 80% 2,079 M 79%
a Pure Android/Play 1,806 M 54%
b Forked Android/AOSP 890 M 27%
2 (2) iOS 612 M 19% 602 M 19% 505 M 19%
Others 8 M 0% 31 M 1% 56 M 2%
TOTAL 3,316 M 3,193 M 2,640 M
I find the clipboard add on found in Fleksy keyboard to be a real help with occasional use of hackers keyboard.
I think the edit toolbar is less relevent on mobile though that could just be because it was something that was introduced after I'd been using tiddlywiki for a while.
Another essential for me was the tweak to allow preview and edit panes to be scrolled independantly... Can't quite remember where I picked that up.
Stephen.
Your links show a paywall, once you visit the site the second time. .. Here's some free phone based data, which should do as well....
... I'm not sure that the latest versions of FF can use any of the save extensions --
PMario responded:
Tiddlyspot is great in that it mostly automatically saves when finishing editing a tiddler and the backup function is great.
Dragging into tiddlywiki from another tab isn't possible and downloading a plugin to then import is a hassle and sometimes made more problamatic by the vaguries of mobile browser not downloading but opening at a text file in a new tab...
- NoteSelf is a Nice and quick method to get TiddlyWiki on a phone, including by visiting it hosted on the internet, it has its own app icon which works well and stops opening multiple instances.
- You cant easily update or access noteself wikis after you first install it, just add data as you go.
- I do not use an external database at this point, however once I do I should be able to influence the same wiki from my desktop
- Turmux and node JS is a pain to start, and despite buying the app to autostart I have not yet got it working.
Termux is just an app. Gives you a Linux console. Just follow nodejs instructions for Linux on tiddlywiki. Job done!
- Initial sign-up for a Bluemix/Cloudant account is confusing. This is needed for cross-platform sync.
- The Bluemix/Cloudant ID is used in Noteself as the Username-for-signing-edits. Great, if only the automatically-generated Bluemix/Cloudant ID isn't a long string of letters and numbers. Editing the Username-for-signing-edits tiddler doesn't help. It reverts on app/browser refresh. I've simply learned to live with it.
- I can't update plugins without uninstalling them first.
- If you're not using Vanilla theme, you'd have to wait a few seconds for your selected theme to load.
- On Noteself for Android, there is a default stylesheet that I have to manually disable for mobile layouts to work correctly.
- The storylist isn't synced cross-platform. I wish there's a setting to enable this.
This is true running directly from your github site and for the NoteSelf app which I have updated with the latest plugin versions.
Ste
I was speculating that that could be related to the plugin problem you had just commented on or it could be completely different problem.
Of it makes any difference in doing this from a mobile.
Ste
- Initial sign-up for a Bluemix/Cloudant account is confusing. This is needed for cross-platform sync.
Yes it is. I am already working on a NoteSelf dedicated service, where login will be very easy.
- The Bluemix/Cloudant ID is used in Noteself as the Username-for-signing-edits. Great, if only the automatically-generated Bluemix/Cloudant ID isn't a long string of letters and numbers. Editing the Username-for-signing-edits tiddler doesn't help. It reverts on app/browser refresh. I've simply learned to live with it.
Also true, I noticed this and I am currently suffering it, so I'll try to fix it while adding support for NoteSelf login
- I can't update plugins without uninstalling them first.
This is new. I don't understand why this happens. Have to investigate
- On Noteself for Android, there is a default stylesheet that I have to manually disable for mobile layouts to work correctly.
Could you expand on that ? The android app works fine for me,specially with the latests versions and starting with a brand new wiki. Do you mean a NS stylesheet or a personal stylesheet from you ?
- The storylist isn't synced cross-platform. I wish there's a setting to enable this.
This is by design. At first it was synced, but that cause lots of synchronization problems, mostly due to the fact that TW makes a special treatment of this tiddler. Also an surprising weird behavior is that open tiddlers are reflected on real time, so as a consequence you can not use it at the same time from two different places. It was some king of inconvenient real-time collaboration.
I am working on a project to bring easy login flow to NoteSelf. It will use a passwordless approach, so you will not need to remember a password neither registration.You will input your email and hit login, then we will generate a random pin with a small lifetime (say 30 minutes), then you input that pin on NoteSelf and we will provide you a long-term authentication token that will be automatically managed by NoteSelf.
At first the service should be considered beta, will be free and only one database per user will be provided.
If I had to guess what's at the heart of the restlessness of looking for other things ... it's the fact that I can't use it [TiddlyWiki] for everything...
For example, a big chunk of functionality is missing because I can't use it on my phone.
Yes, I know of the Android app, and I also think it's terrible next to the "real thing"- mostly because the phone, for me, is no place to sit down and write informative tiddlers with all that they require (Linux script to auto-resize and manipulate images so they fit well in tiddlers; tabs open of different topics and things I'm looking into, including this group; endless river of tiddlers reflecting on topic at hand; my journal...)
I am constantly looking for tiddlywiki replacement. I use TW as my knowledge base. I am very happy with it but it is nodejs and it is quite tricky to use on mobile phone (keyboard is flaky)...
My setup is documented here gist.github.com/khia/471f8e74e…. The major problems are:
1. annoying dialog "Error retrieving skinny tiddler list: XMLHttpRequest error code 0"
2. editing is nearly impossible on the phone - layout scaling - keyboard cursor jumping so you cannot type