How to uninstall Stroll? It breaks my TW5.1.23 [German/Austrian edition]

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HP

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Dec 30, 2020, 6:20:22 PM12/30/20
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Hi all,

I can't neither use the close or delete button for a new tiddler or use the new tiddler drop down menu after installing Stroll.

It isn't a plugin, so how do I uninstall it? I got a comprehensive list of entries via my advanced search within System for "stroll". i can't decide what of it i can or must remove.

Maybe there is a more generic approach to this kind of problem when no plugins are involved.

Thanks in advance..

David Gifford

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Dec 30, 2020, 8:17:30 PM12/30/20
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Hi HP

I will review this in the morning (I am in Mexico City) and will try to update Stroll tomorrow and publish updating instructions.

I have repeatedly asked for someone to put out Stroll as a plugin, since I don't know how to do that. A couple people said they would, but nothing came of it. But I will address the updating issues tomorrow. Sorry for the hassles!

HP

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Dec 30, 2020, 8:47:19 PM12/30/20
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Never mind David! :)
IC XC NIKA

David Gifford

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Dec 30, 2020, 8:49:35 PM12/30/20
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Never mind? Why do you say that?

HP

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Dec 30, 2020, 8:49:45 PM12/30/20
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Iirc there was a tutorial in your great list about "how to create a TW plugin". I will look for it and read a bit..maybe I can come up with something useful for you.

On Thursday, December 31, 2020 at 2:17:30 AM UTC+1 David Gifford wrote:

HP

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Dec 30, 2020, 8:51:43 PM12/30/20
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I am not a native English speaker.. I thought it meant something like "no problem!". I apologize for this if it was not the right tone..

David Gifford

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Dec 30, 2020, 8:57:13 PM12/30/20
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Thanks for the explanation, HP. Never mind does mean something like 'No problem', but when you use it after a request, it means 'Don't attend to my request, I no longer need you to do it.' So since you requested help with Stroll and then said never mind, it left me confused. Now I get it. Blessings and Happy new year!

HP

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Dec 30, 2020, 9:10:22 PM12/30/20
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David, thanks for your blessings! May our Lord bless you and your family as well and also a Happy new year to all of you!

Btw, I think I found something up-to-date and very usable to create a plugin. https://tiddlywiki.com/dev/#How%20to%20create%20plugins%20in%20the%20browser:HelloThere%20%5B%5BHow%20to%20create%20plugins%20in%20the%20browser%5D%5D%20Introduction - Could you use it? It seems a straight forward tutorial fmpov. If not, I need some time but I think when I study it - I could do it.

What do you think?

David Gifford

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Dec 30, 2020, 9:16:17 PM12/30/20
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Hmmm I will look at that. I had not seen that. That sounds simple enough. Now to have the time to work on it...

HP

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Dec 30, 2020, 9:26:02 PM12/30/20
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Be careful David, I was mislead - it seems out-of-date (2015?) - I came across this link via the new Git Developer Discussion pages. My fault, again.. :-/ I will take a look at this (https://wikilabs.github.io/#GettingStarted) after coming back from work (it is 3:25 am here, I need to sleep)..

odin...@gmail.com

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Dec 31, 2020, 2:02:25 AM12/31/20
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Using Tinka is an easy way of making plugins in a single file wiki. I think it is what you are looking for David.

Op donderdag 31 december 2020 om 03:26:02 UTC+1 schreef HP:

David Gifford

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Dec 31, 2020, 7:09:40 AM12/31/20
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Hi HP

I figured out the problem with the delete and close buttons. Just delete $:/config/ui/EditTemplate. and you should be good.

Explanation: I had a separate edit template for Stroll, so that every time you edit a tiddler and close it, missing tiddlers are created. This was to imitate Roam Research functionality and save a step of manually creating every tiddler. I think to avoid users' confusion and work for me every time TiddlyWiki gets upgraded, I will remove that functionality.

I will update the Stroll tutorial to remove references to that functionality, and I will update Stroll and Stroll's empty.html to 5.1.23 and without the offending tiddlers in a few moments. But for you, all you need to do at the moment is delete that config tiddler, and it will return to its default state, which points to $:/core/ui/EditTemplate instead of my custom edittemplate.

There is still a problem with the Close others and Fold others not working in the more menu. I suspect those are problems with the Stories plugin by Saq. I will poke around to see if I can find the problem, but most likely Saq will know how to fix that. Everything else seems to be working okay.

HP

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Dec 31, 2020, 11:11:30 AM12/31/20
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Hi David,
I tried to delete $:/core/ui/EditTemplate but it is a core TW5 shadow tiddler and will be immediately restored. I opened it and deleted it several times. The hint from @odin about Tinka for creating plugins sounds promising to me.

David Gifford

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Dec 31, 2020, 11:39:05 AM12/31/20
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Hi HP

I forgot to let you know about my new instructions. See https://groups.google.com/g/tiddlywiki/c/YeiImlym0j8 Regardless of what you have done, see that.

Yes, $:/core/ui/EditTemplate is a shadow tiddler. But since in Stroll I had deleted the tag that normally is on that tiddler, when you deleted that tiddler it restored the tag. I didn't mean that the tiddler would cease to exist. Sorry for the confusion.

As for Tinka...that is for people much more knowledgeable than I.

HP

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Dec 31, 2020, 1:48:56 PM12/31/20
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David, it worked! Thanks! Now I don't need to uninstall it anymore.. <3

HP

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Dec 31, 2020, 2:26:54 PM12/31/20
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David, this is the Tinka plugin in action. I am not sure if you did already took a look into it:
temp.png

HP

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Jan 1, 2021, 6:56:38 AM1/1/21
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@David and @odin.. , I unfortunately tried it in my TW5 and it was destroy by my wrong selection of the tiddlers but it worked fmpov.

David Gifford

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Jan 1, 2021, 10:05:36 AM1/1/21
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Hi HP can you explain? What did you try? And what do you mean by "it was destroyed" yet "it worked"?

HP

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Jan 1, 2021, 5:20:35 PM1/1/21
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I just filled the 12 fields and after adding the Stroll tiddlers the plugin was created by Tinka but my wiki seems to be destroyed in its function. I don't know if the Tinka plugin may gathered it and deleted it. I am in safe mode right now but can't even switch this off anymore.
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