working with "original" shadow tiddler

[Rustem]

When I have a tiddler overriding a shadow, how can I display the original shadow tiddler as defined in a plugin, including all it's fields?

--R.

[PMario]

On Saturday, September 2, 2017 at 1:09:48 AM UTC+2, Rustem wrote:

When I have a tiddler overriding a shadow, how can I display the original shadow tiddler as defined in a plugin, including all it's fields?

Just rename the "new" tiddler and the shadow will come back. .... back and forth.

-m

[Rustem]

Not see for myself, but *display*.

I already got to the point where I can display each field of the original by name, explicitly. What I'm looking for is a filter to list all fields of the tiddler that is inside `[shadowsource[]]`.

-R.

[BJ]

you can use the subtiddler option with the transclusion widget

BJ

[Rustem]

Yes, that's what I'm doing. That's how I can display any field if I know it's name. I can transclude it using the subtiddler option and the field option. I'm looking for the next step - to display all the fields, without knowing their names. With a standard tiddler, I would use a fields[] filter operator for that. But there is no way to do it for a subtiddler.

[BJ]

I dont think there is a way to do that.

I have an extension that I use for this it has the syntax:

<$set name="plugintiddler" value="$:/plugins/bj/struc">
<$list filter = "[plugin<plugintiddler>title[$:/plugins/bj/struc/license]fields[]]">

<$view tiddler=<<plugintiddler>> subtiddler="$:/plugins/bj/struc/license" field=<<currentTiddler>> format="text"/>
</$list>
</$set>



I could share it if you like...

[Rustem]

So, you have an operator "plugin", that replaces the overriding tiddler with the original shadow tiddler, for the scope of the filter run??? This belongs in the core! Please do share. Thanks. :)

[BJ]

I've put it here:

http://bjhacks.tiddlyspot.com/

enjoy!

[Rustem]

If I replace "fields[]" with "tags[]" in your example, I get the override's tags. Is "fields[]" the only possible filter following "plugin[]title[]"?

Not complaining nor requesting anything, just want to know what's possible, and it's not apparent to me from the source code. Thanks!

[BJ]

unfortunately it does not work! The filter is pulling the unshadow tiddler out or the store.

[TonyM]

My 2cents

You want to override the override of a shadow tiddler to access its fields?

What about cloning the shadow tiddler with a new name (remove and tags that make it active) and use that copy to identify the list of fields in it, which will match those in the original shadow tiddler. You can then use this information to reference the actual fields in the shadow tiddler?

Just a different approach, and a variation on Marios "Just rename the "new" tiddler and the shadow will come back. .... back and forth. "

Regards
Tony

[wimm]

did you have a look at?
<$view tiddler="title" subtiddler="tiddlertitle" field="tags"/>

[BJ]

This is now fixed.

There is a new ''tidsub" filter -
example:

[plugin<plugintiddler>tidsub[TiddlerName]fields[]]

all the best

BJ

On Tuesday, September 5, 2017 at 9:04:46 PM UTC+2, Rustem wrote: