Perhaps you could also think of enabling move to back, but I am not sure of the best way to find them again, perhaps using the link in the open sidebar tab.
Imagine you are in a Vector diagram editor, Photoshop etc... you can move items between layers.That we could select a tiddler and "Move to Back" would be like placing it on the background such that other "Floating" tiddlers, even standard tiddlers, would be in the midground.
Of course when we click on a tiddler it will be displayed fully, clicking another it will return to the position. Your pileup does this according to the active tiddler, but when we are focused on another perhaps they could move to their set position.
Perhaps we could "minimise" a tiddler to a row at the bottom of the screen such that clicking will open it "Restore" in the previous positions, and full screen the tiddler as well.
- Provide a larger virtual wiki space, large than the physical screen in which we can arrange tiddlers, with mouse or arrow keys scrolling left/right up/down.
- This would allow those popular and "sexy" presentations that move the perspective not the content - if you know what I mean
- With a zoom out option to see them all.
I would be keen to see a filter based and "multiple engines" option, for example when I change projects be able to display the key tiddlers for that project.
There has being a proposed feature for "Stacked" story view that is continuously held back for later release, see bottom of https://tiddlywiki.com/prerelease/#TiddlyWiki%20Pre-release this may be able to be implemented in your solution but may require more levels than background, middleground and foreground.
I am really looking forward to the potential of your solution when using tiddlers with internal navigation or iframes to other sites and wikis. It may behave like a Wiki of Wikis
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The tagpill dropdown is hm let's say enormous.
Importing your plugins to another Tiddlywiki using another palette makes the plugin buttons invisible. ($:/Topbar and $:/Sidebar)
As far as I can see, you have very few places that could be translated, but even so it would be nice to have an easy way of doing that. You see, your plugins are going to be VERY popular ;-)
The buttons are easy drag button, Create a new story window and Choose the story visualisation. They "disappear" but are visual when hovering.But looking at it once more I found out that it is because the buttons turn white. So in classic view they are white on the blue background but of course they are not visible when changing to mentat.
I've been using Volant extensively for a while now and would like to share two tiddlers that add some practicality for me... I don't mean for these to be added to your plugins but just some optional extra for people who'd like this too. They can be found and demoed here:
Also would like to report that I get some JS error with the following:
Is it possible to have another button arrange floating tiddlers like Windows 10?I mean snap them to left, right, or top! This would be great for viewing the tiddlers side by side!
It would be nice to be able to limit this width to one screen or less so we can see both the left and right hand side of the story tiddlers in that screen and leave the rest as a playground for other window tiddlers.
If you could describe a little more on the demo site how one would go about using it for the new commer I would appreciate it. It is quite easy to get disoriented.
Hi admls,
Wow! This is so cool! The tiddlers stay within the browser when resizing the window, and it looks so easy to style!
This will change my desktop tw-ing habits. No longer do I need to keep a separate notepad.exe running as a clipboard when I can use a tiddler served through Mentat instead! Aah... am already thinking of the efficiency this will add to my workflow...
Thank you so much for sharing!
-jd
On Tuesday, March 12, 2019 at 11:23:34 AM UTC+9, admls wrote:Hi Folks,
I'm sort of publishing 4 plugins that create a flexible, customizable ui:
* Repopup* Volant* Engine* Mentat
You can go check them out over here https://admls.github.io/Mentat/
Why "sort of"? Because I'm having trouble with the packaging from node, is why. In any case, I wanted to put these out there so that anyone who wishes to may experiment with them a bit. I'll work on figuring out how to get them packaged correctly in the coming days. I hope you enjoy them!
Best wishes,
admls
P.s. Please let me know if there is anything I can do to improve them. This is my first sort of major programming project, so I'd love to learn how to polish it a bit.
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At the moment it doesn't seem to get touch-gestures (or is this my browser/my tablet fault?)
Did you already explain on what mechanism you built this?
Hi Jan,Thank you! It has a long way to go yet, but I think it is promising!At the moment it doesn't seem to get touch-gestures (or is this my browser/my tablet fault?)You're right. That's definitely on my to-do list. I thought it would be best to get the desktop version out and see if there is enough interest before diving into mobile/touch features (as it is further outside my wheelhouse).
if($tw.browser && !window.Hammer) {
window.Hammer = require("$:/plugins/tiddlywiki/hammerjs/hammer.js");
}
this.hammer = new Hammer.Manager(domNode);
this.hammer.add(new Hammer.Pan({ event: 'pan', pointers: 1, threshold: 0, direction: Hammer.DIRECTION_ALL }));
this.hammer.on('touchmove panstart panmove dragstart draginit drag', function(event) {
//do something while dragging, move domNode using coordinates in event
});
.on('panend pancancel touchend mouseup dragend draginitup', function(e) {
//dragging finished
});
The collaboration issue on tiddlywiki, especially hosted single file wikis, is still a challenge but solutions are now available. I am working on this but I will not have a packaged solution for some time.
Can I suggest using bimlas' disqus or the other from WordPress.you can have discussions on and independent from the wiki.
With 5.1.20 we can add local storage and build more collaboration features until then a external commenting system appears the best way to discuss and github for formal issues.
Regards
Tony
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Hi Simon, Hi admls,
great, volant looks pretty like movable. You know how I longed for that!
Yours Jan
I hope I can bring a bit of my knowledge in where it's needed
I'm ... publishing 4 plugins that create a flexible, customizable ui:
@MohammadIs it possible to have another button arrange floating tiddlers like Windows 10?I mean snap them to left, right, or top! This would be great for viewing the tiddlers side by side!I don't think this belongs in the volant plugin, but it can very easily be an addon. I have an idea how to implement it. It uses the same mechanism that reset uses. If the tiddlywiki hotkey system (which I know very little about) will support it, I think hotkeys could be a good way to do this, just as in some of your references. That would avoid cluttering the ui visually anymore than it already is while still giving you the functionality you are looking for. I'll take a look at this thing this week if I get the chance. It's a cool idea. I like how fast it could feel. I think it should be relatively straightforward to implement (but I often think that before I actually try coding it).
Hi BurningTreeC,I hope I can bring a bit of my knowledge in where it's neededThat sounds excellent! There's no pressure of course, but if you want to collaborate on this, I'd really welcome it. The code is in an unfortunate state of not being well-commented, which may make it difficult to contribute to at the moment, but I need to resolve that anyway. Having looked at and admired your tiddlywiki work, I think we have similar enough ui instincts that we could probably collaborate pretty effectively. I have a notion of how to implement your dashboard-style drawing-a-new-tiddler-into-existence idea as an add-on to volant, for example. And I'm sure you see lots of things in volant, mentat, etc that could be improved upon. I'm very open to having my ideas and implementations critiqued; so don't be concerned on that score. I want to make as useful a piece of software as possible and learn as much as possible in the process. Collaborating with someone with a lot more experience than myself would be quite the boon.In any case, no pressure. But if there's a way you can think of that I can facilitate your collaboration on this, I'd be happy to do so!
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Hi @Mohammad,I was just planning on adding some hooks to the main plugins and then hooking in with addons. The mechanism you linked to is really fascinating. I'll have to give it a more thorough look.I think the snap idea is great. It shouldn't be hard to add the minimal snap behaviors. Some of the more complex stuff will be trickier.
all for maximise, if you have a restore or intermediate window size so on multi screen as maximise would consume both screens.
Great work
Tony
all for maximise, if you have a restore or intermediate window size so on multi screen as maximise would consume both screens.
However if I have tiddlers tagged as windows, but not in mentat view the story river is as wide as the three screens (less the sidebar if displayed).
It would be nice to be able to limit this width to one screen or less so we can see both the left and right hand side of the story tiddlers in that screen and leave the rest as a playground for other window tiddlers.
Hi @Mohammad,
Many thanks on this admls. Please do not forget to have a look at w3.org (https://www.w3.org/TR/css-scroll-snap-1/)
Are you referencing this in connection to getting the volant tiddlers to snap to the side/top/bottom or is this a different feature you're looking for? I'm sorry, I don't entirely understand what you're getting at. Could you give me a description?
Another form of snap, is snap to grid. Where rather than an infinite set of places and sizes, windows align them selves to the grid.
This can help the quick arrangement of windows..
See you in github
Tony