[Noteself] load error using empty.html ($tw.boot.boot is not a function)

[Lost Admin]

In my slow but continuing effort to built a full Noteself supporting environment I noticed something odd.

If I go to https://noteself.github.io/online/, there is a nice quick Loading and everything shows up ready to go after the word "loading" turns green. It all happens with a single call to the URL.

If I download the empty.html from https://noteself.github.io/ (a button near the bottom of the page) and put the resulting file on my own static web server (https://wiki.suntrap.ca/noteself.html), there is a series of several reloads from the server before it finally shows up. I have confirmed this with both the Firefox developer console and the server logs on wiki.suntrap.ca (server logs show 379 get requests for a single page load).

In addition, the console log in the developer tools of Firefox shows an error each time there is a reload. The error (tabs expanded) is below.



I suspect there is a bug of some sort in the empty.html that is not in the "online" version used in noteself.github.io.

[Lost Admin]

I have now tried this with Firefox 54, MS Edge, and IE 11. IE 11 does not exhibit the reloading behavior.

Firefox (repeating in access log)

"GET /noteself.html HTTP/1.1" 200 404453 "-" "Mozilla/5.0 (Windows NT 10.0; WOW64; rv:54.0) Gecko/20100101 Firefox/54.0"

Edge (repeating in access log)

"GET /noteself.html HTTP/1.1" 200 245760 "-" "Mozilla/5.0 (Windows NT 10.0; Win64; x64) AppleWebKit/537.36 (KHTML, like Gecko) Chrome/52.0.2743.116 Safari/537.36 Edge/15.15063"

IE 11 (only once in access log)

 "GET /noteself.html HTTP/1.1" 200 404453 "-" "Mozilla/5.0 (Windows NT 10.0; WOW64; Trident/7.0; rv:11.0) like Gecko"

I don't have chrome at home to test with.

[Lost Admin]

Now that I'm at work, I can add Chrome 59 to my list. It works without issue.

I'm thinking it might be something to do with either Firefox in general or my particular set-up of Firefox. Can someone else see if it's doing the same multiple-reload thing for you too or if it's just me?

[Lost Admin]

I need to correct my assessment with Chrome. Although Chrome does not exhibit the multiple-reload behavior, it does report the same error on the javascript console:

[RichardWilliamSmith]

Sorry I hadn't seen this thread before I posted previously. This is the same issue that I'm having, on both Chrome and Firefox. The issue is not present when the same file is loaded over the file api.

[Danielo Rodríguez]

Hello everyone,

This is very inconvenient, and very hard to trace.

Lost Admin, If I open the link you have provided it reloads the page a couple of times, but after that it then starts to work and from that point the page no longer crashes or reloads. The page crashes randomly at first because it has to create the required environment, and it creates a part of it each time it reloads. This is NOT by design, but it happens, and it only happens on the offline version.

As time passes, it is getting harder and harder to keep both versions (the online and offline ones) on sync, and sometimes it takes time that I would better invest in developing NoteSelf itself.

The fact that I can't reproduce the issue on any of my computers or mobile devices does not help neither: for me it always works, an it's quite frustrating. I'm thinking about hidding the offline version a bit more and put a disclamer about it's beta stage.

Regards

[Lost Admin]

On Thursday, September 21, 2017 at 7:09:26 AM UTC-4, Danielo Rodríguez wrote:

Hello everyone,

This is very inconvenient, and very hard to trace.

Lost Admin, If I open the link you have provided it reloads the page a couple of times, but after that it then starts to work and from that point the page no longer crashes or reloads. The page crashes randomly at first because it has to create the required environment, and it creates a part of it each time it reloads. This is NOT by design, but it happens, and it only happens on the offline version.

Likewise, it only happened to me on the version I got from your download button. To reproduce it I had to clear all data from Firefox, which is surprisingly difficult.

 

As time passes, it is getting harder and harder to keep both versions (the online and offline ones) on sync, and sometimes it takes time that I would better invest in developing NoteSelf itself.

The fact that I can't reproduce the issue on any of my computers or mobile devices does not help neither: for me it always works, an it's quite frustrating. I'm thinking about hidding the offline version a bit more and put a disclamer about it's beta stage.

That is your choice and I respect it. But if I can't host everything on my own system(s), I will look for something else. Self-hosting is part of what got me looking at TiddlyWiki and the offline/online mode(s) of NoteSelf  combined with the per-tiddler conflict resolution got me very interested in NoteSelf.

[Danielo Rodríguez]

Hello again Lost Admin,

This kind of problems have been long solved. Could you try it again and let me know if you still experiencing this problems ?

Regards