@Jeremy's Punch Theme (TalkyTalky) - Has anyone made it into a standalone theme?

[Måns]

Hi TwWizards

I'd like to be able to use Jeremy's Punch theme for presentations.

As soon as you have installed it it is no longer possible to change to a normal theme (font sizes, position etc...).

This makes the TW pretty unsuited for further editing I'm afraid..

If I could figure it out I would see if I could make it into a standalone theme and see if it would make it possible to switch themes...

Creating a theme from scratch seems to be pretty daunting atm.. as (I guess) you have to know and understand what needs to be included from the vanilla theme to make it work !?

If I use Tinka to create a new theme from Punch - would it then be sufficient to add vanilla/base to make it into a standalone theme??

Cheers Måns Mårtensson

[Måns]

As soon as you have installed it it is no longer possible to change to a normal theme (font sizes, position etc...).

This makes the TW pretty unsuited for further editing I'm afraid..

 Forgot to tell that I try to make it work in a (stable) TW version 5.1.8. Maybe some "prefixes" has changed since TW v. 5.1.3 - and this is why it doesn't work when you change themes?

Cheers Måns Mårtensson

  

[RichardWilliamSmith]

Hi Mans,

When I drag and import the punch theme from talkytalky into tiddlywiki.com and save the resulting file, I am able to switch between the themes happily - Is this what you're trying to do? because it seems to work. Talkytalky itself has some other tweaks besides the theme which might affect things?

Regards,

Richard

[Måns]

Hi Richard

Thank you very much for looking into it :-)

Talkytalky itself has some other tweaks besides the theme which might affect things?

 

@Birthe sent me a pm with a working example - and I must admit that I also imported Jeremy's edited shadow tiddler..

Problem solved - and I'm sorry about the unnecessary "noise" ....

Related: 

I am still left in the dark - when it comes to how you create a theme from scratch... I wonder if it's possible to create a "base-theme" - maybe the Vanilla theme *is* the base theme? or if any active theme might function as a base for creating a  user theme which can be exported to other TWs as a plugin/theme when it has been combined in Tinka?

I don't feel quite comfortable importing all tiddlers from a "pretty involved" theme - adding a few of my own stylesheet changes - and call it "MyTheme" when it is in fact based on a full theme with another name.  

I do understand that I could mark my new theme as "dependent on 'themeName'" (as Punch does with Vanilla) - and try to remember to import both themes (my stylesheet changes + the theme it is a customization of)  - however I think that it would be nice to be able to collect a few base modules and your own changes made on top of those and create a theme with no dependencies which you could give a name and call your own creation.

Tinka gives us this oppertunity - however I'm not too keen on creating/rolling out new themes (or plugins for that matter) where most of the material included is in fact the finished/standalone work of somebody else....

Don't know if this makes any sense?

Maybe I'm just overwhelmed by the sheer amount of work (time) that has to be put into/spent on testing what parts of the Vanilla theme is absolutely necessary to be able to build a theme "from scratch" ... Don't know.. 

Cheers Måns Mårtensson