So last year and this year, while swinging flies with my two-hand rod for shad, the fish crashing the surface around and above Fletcher’s have me wondering.
The guys at the boathouse say they are catfish.
Has anyone been able to successfully target these fish on the fly? If so, what was the pattern(s)?
Are these fish feeding? Attacking some small prey fish? Or just doing a fish thing we folk don’t understand?
It looks like it would be wonderful fun to hook into one these, especially the very large ones I have occasionally seen.
Thanks, Regan
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when you see them under the bridge at Mount Vernon you'll notice what appears to be Barn swallows flying low and tight on the water going after insects. Could be that the cat is going after surface bugs or maybe the bird itself. I see that them crashing the surface just as the bird goes by. Go there late May thru June and you'll see it happen right I front of you.
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My theory on the crashing fish has always been that they are chasing caddis emergers. I've never been mindful enough to bring an imitation with me to the river, however. Would be stoked if someone decided to try my theory and actually caught something!
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I also caught a small one on a black clouser fishing under dock lights in Chincoteague. IDK if the whole "they don't eat" only applies to the spawning run or what. I'll still use shad darts but food for thought...
As for the crashing fish i tend to agree with the emerging caddis theory, the hatches near chain bridge can be decent. Catfish go nuts for the white fly hatch so I don't see why they would ignore caddis. Of course, they could also be eating chubs or other baitfish that are eating the caddis.
Gene,Yes. I swung a caddis pupa that was heavily weighted with a floating line. I just lost interest in it. It’s not the same as when a trout takes it.R
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Subject: Re: {Tidal Potomac Fly Rodders} Re: targeting the crashing catfish--You know, Beth said the same darn thing this weekend...."I think the fish are eating caddis out here" but I just didn't think about it too much. She also thinks that the shad are eating, and doesn't care what the popular, unclear opinion is about why they hit flies ;).Rich -- did you try sinking the heck out of one and swinging it (up) in the water column? The goddard is a dry right?I had a nice brown exploding over and over last year on the Savage and couldn't get him to take no matter what I did. I suspected it was emerging caddis given his behavior, but there's no way I could get myself into a position to even attempt to mimic that.Gene
On Tuesday, April 26, 2016 at 9:28:48 AM UTC-4, Andrew Sarcinello wrote:The first hickory shad I ever caught were on live minnows in Indian River Inlet in DE. They were going nuts in the tidal rip, and when I could get a minnow out far enough it would immediately get eaten by a 15-16" hickory shad.I also caught a small one on a black clouser fishing under dock lights in Chincoteague. IDK if the whole "they don't eat" only applies to the spawning run or what. I'll still use shad darts but food for thought...
As for the crashing fish i tend to agree with the emerging caddis theory, the hatches near chain bridge can be decent. Catfish go nuts for the white fly hatch so I don't see why they would ignore caddis. Of course, they could also be eating chubs or other baitfish that are eating the caddis.
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Thanks for that!
I was out there for 4 hours yesterday and was stunned by the number of them jumping for such a sustained period of time.
On Monday, April 25, 2016, Matt Brennan <matty....@gmail.com> wrote:
I took a video of the quillback popping the surface. A lot of activity, and it was even heavier around sunset. Amazing how many there must be in there!--https://youtu.be/s3QNkglG85sI've seen some advice (http://www.roughfish.com/content/fishing-carpsuckers-quillback-river-and-highfin) on catching them, but all focused on them doing their normal bottom-feeding thing. Nothing explaining why they're coming up to the surface or how to catch them there. Unfortunately, nothing really optimistic about catching them in general.~Matt
On Friday, April 22, 2016 at 7:53:39 PM UTC-4, Regan Burmeister wrote:So last year and this year, while swinging flies with my two-hand rod for shad, the fish crashing the surface around and above Fletcher’s have me wondering.
The guys at the boathouse say they are catfish.
Has anyone been able to successfully target these fish on the fly? If so, what was the pattern(s)?
Are these fish feeding? Attacking some small prey fish? Or just doing a fish thing we folk don’t understand?
It looks like it would be wonderful fun to hook into one these, especially the very large ones I have occasionally seen.
Thanks, Regan
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Quillback silly
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Some of what you see are quillback carp, like Rob said, but the vast majority of large explosions on the surface are blue catfish. Quillback come up and touch the surface and quickly swim back down. They don't make much of a splash. Not sure what the catfish are doing or how you could catch them.
On Friday, April 22, 2016 at 7:53:39 PM UTC-4, Regan Burmeister wrote:So last year and this year, while swinging flies with my two-hand rod for shad, the fish crashing the surface around and above Fletcher’s have me wondering.
The guys at the boathouse say they are catfish.
Has anyone been able to successfully target these fish on the fly? If so, what was the pattern(s)?
Are these fish feeding? Attacking some small prey fish? Or just doing a fish thing we folk don’t understand?
It looks like it would be wonderful fun to hook into one these, especially the very large ones I have occasionally seen.
Thanks, Regan
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