tidal basin

[Will Brumas]

Hey all,

 

Anybody closer to downtown...what does the tidal basin look like today?

 

Will

[Forrest Allen]

I went out there earlier today for a couple hours. Not much luck... Water is still high and very muddy. Lots of action on the top of the water but nothing cared for what I had, big or small.

[Rob Snowhite]

Top water splashes most likely spawning activity by herring/shad. A bad day out there is still a fun day in my books.

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> I went out there earlier today for a couple hours. Not much luck... Water is still high and very muddy. Lots of action on the top of the water but nothing cared for what I had, big or small.
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[Patrick Kearns]

Giving it a go this afternoon, hopefully the weather holds up

[Patrick Kearns]

Shad are indeed stacked up in the tidal basin. Hundreds and hundreds right at the wall. No interest in my darts though.

Caught one very small rockfish (?) and saw a bait fisherman land an enormous carp.

I had one bite that left me puzzled. Something nailed my dart on the retrieve, bent my rod considerably (small-med spinning gear), stripped line at lightning speed for about 2-3 seconds, then spit the lure. I was so stunned/the rod was bent so strongly that I didn't think to set the hook. It really reminded me of the way steelhead hit, or the few experiences I've had with sharks in saltwater, just on a smaller scale. Any idea what hits like that might be lurking in the tidal basin?

[Misha Gill]

My guess is that it was a gar. They strike like lightning, are big and strong, and are very hard to sink a hook into. Could have been anything though! Was your hook bent?

[Patrick Kearns]

That sounds about right.  I didn't notice that the hook was bent any, nor were there any major dings on the jighead.  Like you said, could have been anything - I guess that's what keeps us coming back.

[Richard Farino]

If you were fishing flies (darts) near the bottom of the Tidal Basin, chances are you may have raked it over a catfish or carp.  The shad flies gape is fairly large and are easily lodged in fish scales.

I don’t think I’ve ever seen a gar in the Basin.

R

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[Ben Sacher]

Last may there were tons of gar spawning at the Ohio drive inlet. Couldn't get them to notice a large clouser, but some old timers snagged 3 or 4 "fishing" with a weighted treble. 

On Monday, May 5, 2014 10:18:57 AM UTC-4, Richard Farino wrote:

If you were fishing flies (darts) near the bottom of the Tidal Basin, chances are you may have raked it over a catfish or carp.  The shad flies gape is fairly large and are easily lodged in fish scales.

I don’t think I’ve ever seen a gar in the Basin.

R

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Shad are indeed stacked up in the tidal basin.  Hundreds and hundreds right at the wall.   No interest in my darts though.  

Caught one very small rockfish (?) and saw a bait fisherman land an enormous carp.  

I had one bite that left me puzzled.  Something nailed my dart on the retrieve, bent my rod considerably (small-med spinning gear), stripped line at lightning speed for about 2-3 seconds, then spit the lure.  I was so stunned/the rod was bent so strongly that I didn't think to set the hook.  It really reminded me of the way steelhead hit, or the few experiences I've had with sharks in saltwater, just on a smaller scale.  Any idea what hits like that might be lurking in the tidal basin?

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[Richard Farino]

Were they on the Potomac side (by the fencing) or the Basin side of the inlet?

R

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[Ben Sacher]

on the basin side. saw them a handful of times, but in significant numbers only in the fast water when the tide was rushing in through the inlet.

[Rob Snowhite]

They stack up on the inside in mating pairs. Once done mating they are relatively easy to catch. I've grabbed a few when passing by me on flooded sidewalks. I'll look for a pic. 

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Were they on the Potomac side (by the fencing) or the Basin side of the inlet?

R

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[Rob Snowhite]

Here are the spawning pairs from 2011. They will be stacked up in Roaches Run too (someone posted a few years ago about them along the Mt. Vernon trail)soon-the ones in pairs don't chase flies. Wait for them to finish their 'fun' and then toss flies to them.  There is a good conversation about gar flies and gar feeding on the Itinerant Angler forum.

 

Rob Snowhite

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[Richard Farino]

Very cool.  Will have to stick my head out there and take a look on the way to work?

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[Jim]

Last June I caught several gar at the basin using rope flies.  Need to find a more water repellent rope though, roll casting water logged 6" fly was a pain