Gravelly Point Tide Chart

[Brian Ibanez]

What tide chart do you guys use for Gravelly Point?

[Scott Stankus]

I typically use the one on the Orvis Fishing Reports site, you'll just need to add two hours as it's for Alexandria. 

--Scott

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What tide chart do you guys use for Gravelly Point?

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[Brian Ibanez]

Only problem with that one is you can't go very far out into the future.

On Monday, April 15, 2013 11:33:07 AM UTC-4, Scott S wrote:

I typically use the one on the Orvis Fishing Reports site, you'll just need to add two hours as it's for Alexandria. 

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[Nedak]

I have posted this before.  I put this link on my google calendar and it gives me a feed for Gravelly. I adjust for different locations but for me it's good enough.

webcal://tides.mobilegeographics.com/ical/5251.ics

http://tides.mobilegeographics.com/locations/109.html

You can search the above for more specific locations.  It corresponded to other tide sources so I believe it to be accurate.

[Richard Farino]

The airport high tide is exactly 8 minutes after the Alexandria high tide.  The Chain Bridge high tide is exactly 27 minutes after the Alexandria high tide.  Not 2 hours.

 

 

 

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Richard Farino

Urban Angler VA | 108 N. Washington Street  2nd Floor | Alexandria, VA 22314

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Only problem with that one is you can't go very far out into the future.

On Monday, April 15, 2013 11:33:07 AM UTC-4, Scott S wrote:

I typically use the one on the Orvis Fishing Reports site, you'll just need to add two hours as it's for Alexandria. 

 

--Scott

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[Scott Stankus]

Interesting. I'm basing the two hours on when the water changes direction between Gravelly Point and Roaches Run. Would that account for the additional time? That is, would that start happening right when the tide switches or would there be a delay?

Thanks. 

--Scott

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The airport high tide is exactly 8 minutes after the Alexandria high tide.  The Chain Bridge high tide is exactly 27 minutes after the Alexandria high tide.  Not 2 hours.

 

 

 

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[Richard Farino]

It obviously takes time for the tide to continue to flood into our area.  As it does, the tide rushes in underneath the culvert into the duck pond (Roaches Run) at Gravelly Point.

 

At the end of the high tide there is a 1 hour slack tide where the tide does nothing.  The tide is turning and will begin to ebb after that 1 hour.

 

Given the fact that most folks like to fish Gravelly a few hours after high tide when there is sufficient flow coming out of the duck pond, it make sense to tell people to fish Gravelly 2 hours after the Alexandria high tide which would make the fishing decent, but that doesn’t mean add 2 hours to the high tide to figure out when the high tide is up at the airport.

 

Make sense?

 

 

R

 

 

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[Scott Stankus]

Yup,. thanks, Rich!

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[Brendan]

yea, roaches is all weird given the narrow tunnel.. and timing/delays can vary depending on size of tide and wind. 

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[Daniel Davala]

This is the tide station I use Emily:  http://tidesandcurrents.noaa.gov/noaatidepredictions/NOAATidesFacade.jsp?Stationid=8594900

 

If you click the "Annual PDF" link at the top right, you can view and print tide predictions for the year.  Generally, it is best to fish an outgoing tide at Gravelly approx. 1.5 hours after the listed High tide.  That gives the tide time to peak, then begin to move back out.  The flow out of the tunnel under the parkway will really start pumping after that, and it can last for quite a few hours.  Get a Clouser Minnow or other "baitfish" pattern out into the current and hang on!  Hope to see you out there soon.

 

Dan Davala

 

Also, if you go to the TPFR forum page HERE and type "gravelly point" in the search bar you will have nearly unlimited reading on the subject.  Check out other topics of interest as well - you'll find the archives to be a tremendous resource.  Thanks again to all who have contributed and continue to do so! 

On Mon, May 6, 2013 at 1:15 PM, Emily Weaver <emilyan...@gmail.com> wrote:

Has anyone posted a tide chart that can be printed for the year?

 

Interested in Gravelly Point and other near areas.  Thanks!!

On Monday, April 15, 2013 11:28:51 AM UTC-4, Brian Ibanez wrote:

What tide chart do you guys use for Gravelly Point?

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[Scott Stankus]

To add to what Dan said about fishing Gravelly on the outgoing tide, often the key to getting a strike is to mend your line after you cast to get the fly a little deeper in that fast water. Trent advised me of this long ago and it really makes a difference. 

--Scott

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[Daniel Davala]

Good point Scott.  And I'll add to that, keep the rod tip low - touching or just above the water as the fly swings down stream and through the current.  Follow the swing with the rod tip too, trying to keep it pointed at the place the fly is swimming through.  This will help keep slack in the line to an absolute minimum and you will feel and react to the strike much quicker.

 

Oh, and welcome to the club and the forum Emily!

 

Dan Davala

[TurbineBlade]

I used to hate fishing in current because I didn't know what the hell I was doing.  I was a lake/pond spinning rod guy only.  

Then Beth and I were at Urban one day talking to Rich and it started to make sense!  I actually learned something! -- and now I really enjoy swinging wet flies in all kinds of current.  It's fun and lazy ;).  Then I read a steelhead article from a magazine at the beer tie (awesome source of info BTW -- thank you, anonymous person!)  about using a sink tip and he was saying that he basically just finds a downstream angle, makes several casts with and without mends/split shot/etc.,  until he hangs on the bottom, then he backs it off a bit (casts at an angle more downstream, etc.).  That was the same issue where the advertisement said that you should 'not get worked over by your rod' and go buy a new one to fix the problem.  

I try to do this (hanging bottom, not buying a new rod) now when I get some place I've never fished before (like Buffalo the other day). One pool there was too slow, so I was trying to put a belly in the line to speed up the drag -- downstream mends are wrong!  Like biking in the contra-flow lane!  

GP is a great place to learn how to do this -- and there are probably big fish around there regularly for the picking!

And welcome Emily -- I love seeing more and more women interested in the group.  There is NO activity that cannot be made better when it's not just a "binder full of dudes" and I'll fist-fight anyone who says otherwise.  My experience bike commuting in traffic with Beth for the last 5 years has hammered this one in.  "Dear driver approaching from behind, please don't be a 18-40 year-old male, complete with high-risk-behavior and only a moderate regard for life.  You are the suck of society".  

Gene

On Tuesday, May 7, 2013 8:20:25 AM UTC-4, Dan Davala - Founder/President wrote:

Good point Scott.  And I'll add to that, keep the rod tip low - touching or just above the water as the fly swings down stream and through the current.  Follow the swing with the rod tip too, trying to keep it pointed at the place the fly is swimming through.  This will help keep slack in the line to an absolute minimum and you will feel and react to the strike much quicker.

 

Oh, and welcome to the club and the forum Emily!

 

Dan Davala

On Tue, May 7, 2013 at 8:07 AM, Scott Stankus <ssta...@gmail.com> wrote:

To add to what Dan said about fishing Gravelly on the outgoing tide, often the key to getting a strike is to mend your line after you cast to get the fly a little deeper in that fast water. Trent advised me of this long ago and it really makes a difference. 

--Scott

On Mon, May 6, 2013 at 10:08 PM, Daniel Davala <daniel...@gmail.com> wrote:

This is the tide station I use Emily:  http://tidesandcurrents.noaa.gov/noaatidepredictions/NOAATidesFacade.jsp?Stationid=8594900

 

If you click the "Annual PDF" link at the top right, you can view and print tide predictions for the year.  Generally, it is best to fish an outgoing tide at Gravelly approx. 1.5 hours after the listed High tide.  That gives the tide time to peak, then begin to move back out.  The flow out of the tunnel under the parkway will really start pumping after that, and it can last for quite a few hours.  Get a Clouser Minnow or other "baitfish" pattern out into the current and hang on!  Hope to see you out there soon.

 

Dan Davala

 

Also, if you go to the TPFR forum page HERE and type "gravelly point" in the search bar you will have nearly unlimited reading on the subject.  Check out other topics of interest as well - you'll find the archives to be a tremendous resource.  Thanks again to all who have contributed and continue to do so! 

On Mon, May 6, 2013 at 1:15 PM, Emily Weaver <emilyan...@gmail.com> wrote:

Has anyone posted a tide chart that can be printed for the year?

 

Interested in Gravelly Point and other near areas.  Thanks!!

On Monday, April 15, 2013 11:28:51 AM UTC-4, Brian Ibanez wrote:

What tide chart do you guys use for Gravelly Point?

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[Brendan]

huh?

[TurbineBlade]

Sorry!  I'll get it together, I promise.  

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=EvFul32xKCs

Gene

[Daniel Davala]

Now THAT'S a "commercial" link!

 

Dan Davala

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[TurbineBlade]

Nice Dan!  That's like my tooth-hurty, dentist joke.  

While this thread is derailing quickly, here's an article from the only newspaper I ever read:  http://www.theonion.com/articles/17year-cicadas-horrified-to-learn-about-911,32341/

Gene

Gene

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[Emily Weaver]

Thanks Dan!  And to everyone else who responded...  I'm new to both fishing and blogging but having fun so at some point I'll understand more than the ~25% I do now.  Looking forward to 201 this Sunday!!

 

 

On Monday, May 6, 2013 10:08:37 PM UTC-4, Dan Davala - Founder/President wrote:

This is the tide station I use Emily:  http://tidesandcurrents.noaa.gov/noaatidepredictions/NOAATidesFacade.jsp?Stationid=8594900

 

If you click the "Annual PDF" link at the top right, you can view and print tide predictions for the year.  Generally, it is best to fish an outgoing tide at Gravelly approx. 1.5 hours after the listed High tide.  That gives the tide time to peak, then begin to move back out.  The flow out of the tunnel under the parkway will really start pumping after that, and it can last for quite a few hours.  Get a Clouser Minnow or other "baitfish" pattern out into the current and hang on!  Hope to see you out there soon.

 

Dan Davala

 

Also, if you go to the TPFR forum page HERE and type "gravelly point" in the search bar you will have nearly unlimited reading on the subject.  Check out other topics of interest as well - you'll find the archives to be a tremendous resource.  Thanks again to all who have contributed and continue to do so! 

On Mon, May 6, 2013 at 1:15 PM, Emily Weaver <emilyan...@gmail.com> wrote:

Has anyone posted a tide chart that can be printed for the year?

 

Interested in Gravelly Point and other near areas.  Thanks!!

On Monday, April 15, 2013 11:28:51 AM UTC-4, Brian Ibanez wrote:

What tide chart do you guys use for Gravelly Point?

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[namfos]

The process of learning this stuff and the surprise/wonder/astonishment that it works (and/or of often doesn't) is the fun part. ;-)

Mark

[Rich, Marek]

I use an app on my phone that I think is pretty handy and accurate – simple tides.  

 

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Thanks Dan!  And to everyone else who responded...  I'm new to both fishing and blogging but having fun so at some point I'll understand more than the ~25% I do now.  Looking forward to 201 this Sunday!!

 

 

On Monday, May 6, 2013 10:08:37 PM UTC-4, Dan Davala - Founder/President wrote:

This is the tide station I use Emily:  http://tidesandcurrents.noaa.gov/noaatidepredictions/NOAATidesFacade.jsp?Stationid=8594900

 

If you click the "Annual PDF" link at the top right, you can view and print tide predictions for the year.  Generally, it is best to fish an outgoing tide at Gravelly approx. 1.5 hours after the listed High tide.  That gives the tide time to peak, then begin to move back out.  The flow out of the tunnel under the parkway will really start pumping after that, and it can last for quite a few hours.  Get a Clouser Minnow or other "baitfish" pattern out into the current and hang on!  Hope to see you out there soon.

 

Dan Davala

 

Also, if you go to the TPFR forum page HERE and type "gravelly point" in the search bar you will have nearly unlimited reading on the subject.  Check out other topics of interest as well - you'll find the archives to be a tremendous resource.  Thanks again to all who have contributed and continue to do so! 

On Mon, May 6, 2013 at 1:15 PM, Emily Weaver <emilyan...@gmail.com> wrote:

Has anyone posted a tide chart that can be printed for the year?

 

Interested in Gravelly Point and other near areas.  Thanks!!

On Monday, April 15, 2013 11:28:51 AM UTC-4, Brian Ibanez wrote:

What tide chart do you guys use for Gravelly Point?

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What was the app, is it for an android?

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[Rich, Marek]

The app is called “Simple Tides” and it’s for my IPhone. A search will reveal a number of handy, relatable tide apps to choose from.

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