Nice Day at Fletchers....shad definitely here

[peter odell]

Played hooky and fished from 9 - 12:30.  River is very low and clear.  slow start, but it got pretty hot around 11.  I ended up landing 11 hickory shad, all large except one around 10 inches.  Weather was pretty good, wind came up and down, and temp was warming whole time.  Most of the fish were toward the southern end of the drift.  Seemed like most of the hits were happening mid water column. 

[Deadbait]

Yep agree - was out today with my brother and a couple of colleagues from work from 11 to 3 and though there was some wind, folks were catching on a rather slow bite. My brother and colleague got into a nice school and caught about 10 each from 12 to 2. I was teaching a 14 year old kid from Wyoming not to "trout-set" on shad, then making the same misstakes myself! 

[Rex Moore]

What is "trout-set?"

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Trout setting is raising the rod up to set the hook versus strip set or strip strike where you strip in line to set the hook. More here:

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[Jefferson Robertson]

What sort of flies are you using?

[peter odell]

I was using your standard shad flies (2 in tandem) on my 6 wt, but on my 8 wt, I had a big bucktail streamer with a shad dart trailer (hoping for a striper/rockfish).   Shad grabbed the back fly almost all the time, only had one take the front fly.  No striper/rockfish materialized, but I've caught them this way last couple of years - always a pleasant surprise.  Full sinking lines on both rigs

[Yambag Nelson]

I fished today for about an hour.  Between low tide, low water, and wind it was pretty tough.  Didn't get a bite.  Saw only one other guy fly fishing and he gave it up after about three casts and prompty caught a couple shad on a spinning rod.  It was that kinda day.

Fletechers may not rent boats tomorrow. Just a heads up for anyone thinking of heading out.  The boats were completely landlocked this afternoon with the tide, low water.

[Lucas Rudd]

On Wednesday, April 1, 2015 at 7:21:51 PM UTC-4, peter odell wrote:

Played hooky and fished from 9 - 12:30.  River is very low and clear.  slow start, but it got pretty hot around 11.  I ended up landing 11 hickory shad, all large except one around 10 inches.  Weather was pretty good, wind came up and down, and temp was warming whole time.  Most of the fish were toward the southern end of the drift.  Seemed like most of the hits were happening mid water column.

You got lucky, I usually snag a few gizzard shad while shad fishing at fletchers.   

 

 

[Terry C]

On Wednesday, April 1, 2015 at 7:21:51 PM UTC-4, peter odell wrote:

> Played hooky and fished from 9 - 12:30.  River is very low and clear.  slow start, but it got pretty hot around 11.  I ended up landing 11 hickory shad, all large except one around 10 inches.  Weather was pretty good, wind came up and down, and temp was warming whole time.  Most of the fish were toward the southern end of the drift.  Seemed like most of the hits were happening mid water column. 

The boys from Orvis Tysons tore it up today. Shad mania for 5 hrs. Sunday am.

[Bruce Mathews]

Hi All,

My Daughter's Father-in-law has been after me to take him fishing.  We have nailed down this Sunday morning and I thought we should try for some shad at Fletcher's.  We will not be fly fishing as I am sure he doesn't.  I am not real sure how good of spin fisherman he is.  I thought I would gather some spinning rods and get some shad darts and decorate the bottom with lead.  I have only been to Fletcher's once.  Where is the easiest area to fish with some likely hood of success.  I have parked in the lower lot and attended one of the Saturday casting clinics.  Would we fish the river where the clinic was held.  I have boots  for all.  Whats the near shore wading like along there?  I know there is generally no wading on the VA side.  I seem to be obligated to take him fishing and I suppose its the thing to do since we both share a granddaughter. He's a nice guy, anyway.

As far as shad darts on a spinning setup - do you fish more than one dart or is that just a quicker way to loose all the bait?

Bruce

 

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Played hooky and fished from 9 - 12:30.  River is very low and clear.  slow start, but it got pretty hot around 11.  I ended up landing 11 hickory shad, all large except one around 10 inches.  Weather was pretty good, wind came up and down, and temp was warming whole time.  Most of the fish were toward the southern end of the drift.  Seemed like most of the hits were happening mid water column. 

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[Yambag Nelson]

If you are shore fishing I would walk upriver from fletchers.  There will probably be lots of people up there so whereever you can fit in.  Some places are better than others but it seems like you can get some fish pretty much wherever.  I don't know how old this guy is but getting to some of the spots is not the easiest.  Climbing over debris and rocks may be tough if he is older. 

On Friday, April 10, 2015 at 2:23:00 PM UTC-4, Bruce wrote:

Hi All,

My Daughter's Father-in-law has been after me to take him fishing.  We have nailed down this Sunday morning and I thought we should try for some shad at Fletcher's.  We will not be fly fishing as I am sure he doesn't.  I am not real sure how good of spin fisherman he is.  I thought I would gather some spinning rods and get some shad darts and decorate the bottom with lead.  I have only been to Fletcher's once.  Where is the easiest area to fish with some likely hood of success.  I have parked in the lower lot and attended one of the Saturday casting clinics.  Would we fish the river where the clinic was held.  I have boots  for all.  Whats the near shore wading like along there?  I know there is generally no wading on the VA side.  I seem to be obligated to take him fishing and I suppose its the thing to do since we both share a granddaughter. He's a nice guy, anyway.

As far as shad darts on a spinning setup - do you fish more than one dart or is that just a quicker way to loose all the bait?

Bruce

 

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Played hooky and fished from 9 - 12:30.  River is very low and clear.  slow start, but it got pretty hot around 11.  I ended up landing 11 hickory shad, all large except one around 10 inches.  Weather was pretty good, wind came up and down, and temp was warming whole time.  Most of the fish were toward the southern end of the drift.  Seemed like most of the hits were happening mid water column. 

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[Bruce Mathews]

Thanks.  He is actually 10+ years younger than me.  I'm the older grandad.  How do you find the trail from the boathouse over the the riverside?  Is it marked well?

 

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[Terry C]

Bruce, if you have the $25. bucks its worth renting a boat.  Row out to just before you see the main current coming down the river and drop anchor ( rock )    Cast out into the main current , let it swing below the boat and start retrieving.  The shad like to sit out of the main current.  Vary your retrieve until you feel that are getting hits.  Some days they like it slow other days fast, you never know.  You want to be fishing close to the bottom.    If you don't get a boat  walk up river from the parking lot  1/2 mile ? until the river narrows, cast out and bounce along the bottom.  

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[Bruce Mathews]

Thanks.  I don't think I want to go with these guys in a boat for the first trip.  How deep is the river along there?  If you walk upstream is the shore edge of the river too deep to wade out a few feet?

 

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[Yambag Nelson]

The path is very obvious.  You really can't miss it.

 

You can wade out varying distances depnding on the spot and the tide.  Some spots you can't wade out at all.  Be careful though.  The rocks tend to be angular and it drops off quick everywhere.  As I am sure you are aware, people die in that river.  I don't go past my knees. 

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Thanks.  I don't think I want to go with these guys in a boat for the first trip.  How deep is the river along there?  If you walk upstream is the shore edge of the river too deep to wade out a few feet?

 

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Bruce, if you have the $25. bucks its worth renting a boat.  Row out to just before you see the main current coming down the river and drop anchor ( rock )    Cast out into the main current , let it swing below the boat and start retrieving.  The shad like to sit out of the main current.  Vary your retrieve until you feel that are getting hits.  Some days they like it slow other days fast, you never know.  You want to be fishing close to the bottom.    If you don't get a boat  walk up river from the parking lot  1/2 mile ? until the river narrows, cast out and bounce along the bottom.  

Good luck

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Hi All,

My Daughter's Father-in-law has been after me to take him fishing.  We have nailed down this Sunday morning and I thought we should try for some shad at Fletcher's.  We will not be fly fishing as I am sure he doesn't.  I am not real sure how good of spin fisherman he is.  I thought I would gather some spinning rods and get some shad darts and decorate the bottom with lead.  I have only been to Fletcher's once.  Where is the easiest area to fish with some likely hood of success.  I have parked in the lower lot and attended one of the Saturday casting clinics.  Would we fish the river where the clinic was held.  I have boots  for all.  Whats the near shore wading like along there?  I know there is generally no wading on the VA side.  I seem to be obligated to take him fishing and I suppose its the thing to do since we both share a granddaughter. He's a nice guy, anyway.

As far as shad darts on a spinning setup - do you fish more than one dart or is that just a quicker way to loose all the bait?

Bruce

 

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Played hooky and fished from 9 - 12:30.  River is very low and clear.  slow start, but it got pretty hot around 11.  I ended up landing 11 hickory shad, all large except one around 10 inches.  Weather was pretty good, wind came up and down, and temp was warming whole time.  Most of the fish were toward the southern end of the drift.  Seemed like most of the hits were happening mid water column. 

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[Bruce Mathews]

Thanks - good info.  I have three inflatable PFD's that I thought I might throw in.  I think one of them got hot in the car and blew open - might need a recharge cylinder.  Probably can't get that around here.  I know this is a flyfishing list but does anyone know a good place to pick up shad darts.

 

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The path is very obvious.  You really can't miss it.

 

You can wade out varying distances depnding on the spot and the tide.  Some spots you can't wade out at all.  Be careful though.  The rocks tend to be angular and it drops off quick everywhere.  As I am sure you are aware, people die in that river.  I don't go past my knees. 

On Friday, April 10, 2015 at 3:15:57 PM UTC-4, Bruce wrote:

Thanks.  I don't think I want to go with these guys in a boat for the first trip.  How deep is the river along there?  If you walk upstream is the shore edge of the river too deep to wade out a few feet?

 

Bruce Mathews
703.772.7167

On Friday, April 10, 2015 3:07 PM, Terry C <flycs...@gmail.com> wrote:

Bruce, if you have the $25. bucks its worth renting a boat.  Row out to just before you see the main current coming down the river and drop anchor ( rock )    Cast out into the main current , let it swing below the boat and start retrieving.  The shad like to sit out of the main current.  Vary your retrieve until you feel that are getting hits.  Some days they like it slow other days fast, you never know.  You want to be fishing close to the bottom.    If you don't get a boat  walk up river from the parking lot  1/2 mile ? until the river narrows, cast out and bounce along the bottom.  

Good luck

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Hi All,

My Daughter's Father-in-law has been after me to take him fishing.  We have nailed down this Sunday morning and I thought we should try for some shad at Fletcher's.  We will not be fly fishing as I am sure he doesn't.  I am not real sure how good of spin fisherman he is.  I thought I would gather some spinning rods and get some shad darts and decorate the bottom with lead.  I have only been to Fletcher's once.  Where is the easiest area to fish with some likely hood of success.  I have parked in the lower lot and attended one of the Saturday casting clinics.  Would we fish the river where the clinic was held.  I have boots  for all.  Whats the near shore wading like along there?  I know there is generally no wading on the VA side.  I seem to be obligated to take him fishing and I suppose its the thing to do since we both share a granddaughter. He's a nice guy, anyway.

As far as shad darts on a spinning setup - do you fish more than one dart or is that just a quicker way to loose all the bait?

Bruce

 

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Played hooky and fished from 9 - 12:30.  River is very low and clear.  slow start, but it got pretty hot around 11.  I ended up landing 11 hickory shad, all large except one around 10 inches.  Weather was pretty good, wind came up and down, and temp was warming whole time.  Most of the fish were toward the southern end of the drift.  Seemed like most of the hits were happening mid water column. 

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[Adam Soller]

If it is your first time heading up from Fletchers I would wear a life jacket. Alex may lend you one. It may not look cool but you can still cast fine.

I wear one still when I wade up there and cast one of my two handed rods from shore.

It's tough to swim should you slip and are in waders. Tougher still if you hit your head. Plus the current picks up a day or two after a good rain (for future reference). This is overly cautious but you can google stories of people who have died up there, as mentioned above, as well as the crew coach down here in Alexandria that fell out of a launch over the summer years ago and drowned.

[Adam Soller]

I have bought the canisters for the inflatable PFDs at West Marine on the southern end of Old Town.

If you're headed there you should hit up Richie at Urban Angler who is less than a mile from there. Otherwise, try Orvis in Clarendon, Bethesda or Tysons.

[Lane Thurgood]

The boat is without a doubt the easiest way to fish with amateurs. They don't have to cast far and you can position right on top of fish.  That's how I do it with my kids. Shore is a much harder cast. 

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Thanks.  I don't think I want to go with these guys in a boat for the first trip.  How deep is the river along there?  If you walk upstream is the shore edge of the river too deep to wade out a few feet?

 

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Bruce, if you have the $25. bucks its worth renting a boat.  Row out to just before you see the main current coming down the river and drop anchor ( rock )    Cast out into the main current , let it swing below the boat and start retrieving.  The shad like to sit out of the main current.  Vary your retrieve until you feel that are getting hits.  Some days they like it slow other days fast, you never know.  You want to be fishing close to the bottom.    If you don't get a boat  walk up river from the parking lot  1/2 mile ? until the river narrows, cast out and bounce along the bottom.  

Good luck

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Hi All,

My Daughter's Father-in-law has been after me to take him fishing.  We have nailed down this Sunday morning and I thought we should try for some shad at Fletcher's.  We will not be fly fishing as I am sure he doesn't.  I am not real sure how good of spin fisherman he is.  I thought I would gather some spinning rods and get some shad darts and decorate the bottom with lead.  I have only been to Fletcher's once.  Where is the easiest area to fish with some likely hood of success.  I have parked in the lower lot and attended one of the Saturday casting clinics.  Would we fish the river where the clinic was held.  I have boots  for all.  Whats the near shore wading like along there?  I know there is generally no wading on the VA side.  I seem to be obligated to take him fishing and I suppose its the thing to do since we both share a granddaughter. He's a nice guy, anyway.

As far as shad darts on a spinning setup - do you fish more than one dart or is that just a quicker way to loose all the bait?

Bruce

 

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Played hooky and fished from 9 - 12:30.  River is very low and clear.  slow start, but it got pretty hot around 11.  I ended up landing 11 hickory shad, all large except one around 10 inches.  Weather was pretty good, wind came up and down, and temp was warming whole time.  Most of the fish were toward the southern end of the drift.  Seemed like most of the hits were happening mid water column. 

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[Bruce Mathews]

Thanks to all that provided input.  I am happy to report that guy I wanted to catch a fish caught one shad and lost another.  He was happy.  As I suspected he showed up with salt water surf rods.  Good thing I rounded up three light weight spinning rods.  Left a little lead on the bottom but less than I expected. A lot of folks out there on the DC side. Its a shame the access to the VA shore side is so limited (maybe its a life saver).  I don't think he will ever be a fly fisherman but anyone fishing with artificial bait is really part of use (especially if you consider some of the "flies" thrown on heavy rods these days - can you say "articulated bodies").  For those I met in the parking lot - send me an email about the Ghillie.     Thanks again

 

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