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[Will Brumas]

Hey all, I just booked my trip with two buddies out to Jackson Hole for mid-late June! I'm very excited. We'll be out there for two weeks fishing around Wyoming with Jackson as our hub.

 

My question: does anybody have any tips for air traveling with fly gear? Do they let you bring hooks/fly boxes full of flies on the plane? I thought it might be pretty awesome to tie a few on my tray table in flight, haha. Most importantly, I want to know what to pack on the carry on and what not to pack.

 

Any other Wyoming-area tips appreciated...we got some bear spray.

 

Will

[Daniel Davala]

Hey Will,

I've never attempted tying on the plane, but I do regularly travel with fly gear and I carry everything on with no issues.  In my rod case I carry rods, reels, fly boxes with flies (even big Saltwater patterns), forceps and/or pliers (pliers must be 7" or less to carry on), nips, hook file, etc.  I fill any remaining space in the rod case with some clothing.  Just keep anything they may want to take a second look at (hook file, pliers, etc.) easily accessible to make their job as easy and efficient as possible - I have been thanked for this several times by agents.  Remember, they're looking for bad guys, not traveling anglers, so just be kind and relaxed and let them do their thing.  I also print a current copy of the TSA regs (just the fishing part) and keep the printout in the carry-on just in case it needs to be referenced, but I have never had to cite it: http://www.tsa.gov/traveler-information/hunting-and-fishing-equipment  

In the TSA's words:

"Fishing Rods/Poles

Fishing Rods are permitted as carry-on and checked baggage. However, please check with your air carrier to confirm that it fits within their size limitations for carry-on items. Ultimately, it is the carrier's decision as to whether or not it can be transported as carry-on baggage.

Tackle Equipment

Sharp fishing tackle that may be considered dangerous, such as large fish hooks, should be sheathed, securely wrapped, and packed in your checked luggage. Like other high-value objects, you may wish to pack expensive reels or fragile tackle that does not pose a security threat (small flies) in your carry-on baggage"

Sounds like an AWESOME trip - have a blast!!!

Dan Davala

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[LUIS SANTIAGO]

Will, Dan pretty much nailed it. I travel with my fly gear a ton and have just a thing or two to add. Scissors no matter how small will get confiscated or need to be checked so tying on board will be problem. Only once have I had an issue with forceps in my bag. Dan is spot on about placing the metal items together and quickly accessible for review I usually ziplock those together for quick pull if they want to see them.  If you have a metal or a home tube for your fly rod I would suggest uncapping it before you feed it through the machine. Last, I highly recommend if you do like I do and strap your rod to your  pack to remove from the back pack and send it through the X-ray machine separately. The rod strapped to the pack is usually the perfect size and shape to get logged sideways in the middle of the X-ray machine holding up the process. 

[Joe Molloy]

I'm headed out there around the same time. I used to live there but never fished much at the time(too busy snowboarding)...but here is my one recommendation:

http://www.snakeriverbrewing.com/beers/

Hope that helps!

joe

PS: I'm a bit partial to the Zonker Stout

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[Will Brumas]

THanks everybody, great advice

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[Rob Snowhite]

Tying midges and mysids on the flight to Colorado in 2009: lots of strange looks but no issues.

On Thursday, May 8, 2014 8:13:20 AM UTC-4, Will Brumas wrote:

[Kevin Chaney]

Will,

When I flew out to Jackson two years ago, I had no issues at the airport. Dan is right bring a copy of the TSA guidance just in case. I had a back pack with two rod tubes on each side and my gear inside. We flew into Idaho Falls and stopped at Grand Teton Brewing Co in Victor, ID  on our way (about 35 mins west of Jackson). - highly recommend in addition to Snake River Brew Co. Head to the fly shops in Jackson and ask for some intel about places to fish during run-off depending on flows.  When I was there, Hoback Junction to the south of Jackson was good, as was some of the smaller streams to the north (Pacific Creek). We found a few places on the snake near oxbow bend that held cruising fish near the banks. There is a small stream that flows from string lake into Jenny Lake, give it a try. I did well on mostly nymphs as the dry fly activity wasn't as active, yet - but you never know what the day will bring you and how run-off will be looking.  

Best,

Kevin

[Brad]

That's hilarious. They aren't looking for bad guys. They are looking to steal your kit and provide you with some comic theater. If they select you for individual screening make sure you keep your eyes on them. (Flying with attitude).

Dan's right. I just got back from DC. No issues with fly gear or the 2 oz bucktails. 

On Thursday, May 8, 2014 5:31:07 AM UTC-7, Dan Davala - Founder/President wrote:

Hey Will,

I've never attempted tying on the plane, but I do regularly travel with fly gear and I carry everything on with no issues.  In my rod case I carry rods, reels, fly boxes with flies (even big Saltwater patterns), forceps and/or pliers (pliers must be 7" or less to carry on), nips, hook file, etc.  I fill any remaining space in the rod case with some clothing.  Just keep anything they may want to take a second look at (hook file, pliers, etc.) easily accessible to make their job as easy and efficient as possible - I have been thanked for this several times by agents.  Remember, they're looking for bad guys, not traveling anglers, so just be kind and relaxed and let them do their thing.  I also print a current copy of the TSA regs (just the fishing part) and keep the printout in the carry-on just in case it needs to be referenced, but I have never had to cite it: http://www.tsa.gov/traveler-information/hunting-and-fishing-equipment  

In the TSA's words:

"Fishing Rods/Poles

Fishing Rods are permitted as carry-on and checked baggage. However, please check with your air carrier to confirm that it fits within their size limitations for carry-on items. Ultimately, it is the carrier's decision as to whether or not it can be transported as carry-on baggage.

Tackle Equipment

Sharp fishing tackle that may be considered dangerous, such as large fish hooks, should be sheathed, securely wrapped, and packed in your checked luggage. Like other high-value objects, you may wish to pack expensive reels or fragile tackle that does not pose a security threat (small flies) in your carry-on baggage"

Sounds like an AWESOME trip - have a blast!!!

Dan Davala

On Thu, May 8, 2014 at 8:13 AM, Will Brumas <will....@gmail.com> wrote:

Hey all, I just booked my trip with two buddies out to Jackson Hole for mid-late June! I'm very excited. We'll be out there for two weeks fishing around Wyoming with Jackson as our hub.

 

My question: does anybody have any tips for air traveling with fly gear? Do they let you bring hooks/fly boxes full of flies on the plane? I thought it might be pretty awesome to tie a few on my tray table in flight, haha. Most importantly, I want to know what to pack on the carry on and what not to pack.

 

Any other Wyoming-area tips appreciated...we got some bear spray.

 

Will

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[Davis Walker]

has anyone had any experience flying with a 2 piece rod?

[Brendan]

Only trouble i've ever had with rod tubes is when traveling abroad where i get some puzzled looks and "what is this?".  have been forced to check before but never in the US.  

reminds me, have to look up how to say "obviously you're not a golfer in spanish" tho i doubt that joke would translate or be appreciated... 

bring the tsa printout just in case, but there shouldn't be a problem.  

B

[Aden]

As an airline pilot and a fly angler I would like to add to the conversation. everything that has been said in this post is accurate. I would add one caveat. While you may bring on board the approved items and while you may have a printed copy of the regs, always be prepared to e denied. You can argue all day with the rules in hand but if you are in a small airport or up against some random blueberry/smurf (tsa) they can say we don't allow that here. If you run into this, have a durable bag with you to place the items they aren't allow in and check that bag.

Also, get the agent's name and badge number and ask for a supervisor. Let them know you will be writing a letter explaining what happened and why you think you were able to carry those items.

I will spare you my disdain for the GED police force (the only requirement for the job) but warn you that I have had, as the pilot going to work, my fingernail clippers confiscated.

On that note, have a really great trip. Sounds amazing.

[Joe Molloy]

I recently travelled with my spey rod (4 piece but a long tube) and had no issues...just treat it like a normal carry on. Mine would fit in the overhead storage on top of, or behind other bags just fine.
Joe

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[Danny Barrett]

they let me take a 2 piece 8 weight.  this was back about 3 years now.  got a ton of crap from TSA.  Like the pilot said, just ask for supervisor info and badge number. the guy causin me problems got really friendly after i said i was going to write his boss.  it sucks having to play the low card, but sometimes it is the only option.

Thanks,

Dan Barrett

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[john]

Traveling with fishing equipment is no problem I never check in my reels, I carry on the plane my gear bag with has my reels and flies, etc. I will often check in my rods I put them in a ski type bag with my waders, wading shoes, rain jacket, etc. I have not had any issues, just make sure you have no type of knives of any sort in your fishing bag if you carry them on. Also you CAN NOT travel with bear spray not even checked in, it is essentially pepper spray and if it goes off in flight it could cause a disaster. You must either buy the pepper spray when you get there and leave it there, you can turn it into a ranger station before coming back or you can mail it ( ground you have to state what it is so it does not go by air) out there if you have someplace to mail it to and you can mail it back home as well at the end of the stay. I find this too much of a hassle and also ends up costing more in the long run. Good luck beautiful place.

[Will Brumas]

Thanks again everyone who contributed to this post. Great help and great advice