Mugly caddis

TurbineBlade

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Mar 26, 2016, 7:51:19 PM3/26/16

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Hey shadaholics! I was just going to comment that the SNP streams are excellent too in case anyone was wondering about it between thoughts of hickories and Americans smacking against the side of rowboats and whatnot.

Y'all ever seen this fly? http://www.charliesflyboxinc.com/flybox/print.cfm?parentID=13

So Beth is an excellent angler, but ties flies much less frequently. While no one should criticize a spouse who is willing to tie and fish, one of our frequent light-hearted "discussions" is that I tend to follow the recipe and really strive for proportions with flies, whereas she tends to make stuff up and tie flies which are a bit more...."artistic" than mine ;). When we got to the stream early this morning I decided to use one of her caddis patterns, which is her take on a CDC and Elk. They're easy to spot in the fly box next to mine ;). What her CDC and Elk essentially amounts to is basically a #14 hook with some dubbing (instead of palmered CDC like Hans does), a couple of CDC feathers as a wing, and then some elk hair that is usually a bit longer than how most people tie it.

That sucker worked really well today! -- I had it clipped off, and then back on, and lovingly retrieved from a few trees.....a few times today and darned if it didn't seem to get better results than my "proper" fly.

I was just googling "scraggly caddis" and so forth, and came across this Craven pattern that not only looks virtually identical to hers, but has a similar story behind it!

What a world -- So not only is "what fly did you use?" a thoroughly useless question in 99% of fly fishing (though it can be mildly interesting), maybe neatness doesn't count either ;).

Anyway -- just a neat caddis pattern I thought you folks may not have seen. I know Hans W. claims that he doesn't use CDC for anything other than movement/life, and that's obviously not to be disputed. But, I like the movement + better floating that you get with using it more as a wing than a palmered job. A paper towel square and some frogs fanny, and you're set for 20+ trout without drying.

Gene

TurbineBlade

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Mar 26, 2016, 7:54:05 PM3/26/16

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Crap -- I don't see a shopping cart on that link, but if this breaks forum rules I apologize. I just remembered that.

Gene

Richard Farino

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Mar 26, 2016, 11:54:21 PM3/26/16

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I’ve known Charlie personally for as long as I’ve been a fly fisherman. He’s helped thousands of people, and his site is the stepping stone to tying better flies.

R

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Crap -- I don't see a shopping cart on that link, but if this breaks forum rules I apologize. I just remembered that.

Gene

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TurbineBlade

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Mar 27, 2016, 7:10:31 AM3/27/16

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I had no idea who he was but received his basic fly tying book about 3-4 years ago and found it to be excellent. He does a good job explaining techniques like thread/wire attachment, posting, etc. and ties excellent flies. He also seems like he'd be interesting in person.

He teaches the brassie and zebra midge first, as both are fairly basic but teach how to attach and wrap wire....something many folks struggle with it seems.

Oh, to live so near such great fishing (even if it breeds thousands of trout sissies ;)) . Anyway -- I'm going to suit-up and hit my backyard stream I believe. I'm trying to fish 6/7 days this week and don't feel like going into DC yet.

Gene

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Mar 27, 2016, 8:26:23 AM3/27/16

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Gene, when you fish the park do you tend to fish from the top down, I like going in at the bottom of the streams , fishing up, knowing that at the end of the day when I'm tired I can walk down hill. This means I don't usually make it up to the head water. I need to make it a point to drive up skyline drive and fish the top of these waters some day.

namfos

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Mar 27, 2016, 11:23:11 AM3/27/16

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Better have a car at the bottom, if you ask me. Also don't make a hasty decision. ;-)

Mark

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Mar 27, 2016, 11:46:11 AM3/27/16

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I don't have a real preference just so long as I get out there ;). Fishing from skyline downward is great exercise, great scenery, and often less pressure. Most of the time we rake in the most numbers that way too. Like you said though, it can be tiring and is harder for us to do 2-days in a row. We probably do about 50-50.

Gene

Richard Farino

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Mar 27, 2016, 12:05:31 PM3/27/16

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First time I ever fished the park was mid-summer and we hiked in from the top. It was 101 degrees and humid that day. A 45 minute hike down was an hour and a half death march back up. And I was tong then too.

I learned my lesson quick. Now I let gravity do most of he work. I just hike higher on the way in.

R

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TurbineBlade

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Mar 27, 2016, 1:28:27 PM3/27/16

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Ah, but you still remember it Rich! Your misery was actually some great character building! ;)

The more misery, the more memorable!

Gene

On Sunday, March 27, 2016 at 12:05:31 PM UTC-4, Richard Farino wrote:

First time I ever fished the park was mid-summer and we hiked in from the top. It was 101 degrees and humid that day. A 45 minute hike down was an hour and a half death march back up. And I was tong then too.

I learned my lesson quick. Now I let gravity do most of he work. I just hike higher on the way in.

R

On Mar 27, 2016, at 11:46 AM, TurbineBlade <doubl...@gmail.com> wrote:

I don't have a real preference just so long as I get out there ;). Fishing from skyline downward is great exercise, great scenery, and often less pressure. Most of the time we rake in the most numbers that way too. Like you said though, it can be tiring and is harder for us to do 2-days in a row. We probably do about 50-50.

Gene

On Sunday, March 27, 2016 at 11:23:11 AM UTC-4, namfos wrote:
Better have a car at the bottom, if you ask me. Also don't make a hasty decision. ;-)

Mark

On Sunday, March 27, 2016 at 8:26:23 AM UTC-4, Terry C wrote:
Gene, when you fish the park do you tend to fish from the top down, I like going in at the bottom of the streams , fishing up, knowing that at the end of the day when I'm tired I can walk down hill. This means I don't usually make it up to the head water. I need to make it a point to drive up skyline drive and fish the top of these waters some day.

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Mar 27, 2016, 5:20:51 PM3/27/16

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Last year my first day out in the park I fished for about 6 hrs, the hopped in the car for a 2 hr ride home. In the door I cracked a beer and plopped on the couch, minutes later both legs went into total spasm. I'm screaming and laughing at the same time, my wife looked at me, shook her head and said, " that's pathetic , get in shape ". 😩

On Sunday, March 27, 2016, TurbineBlade <doubl...@gmail.com> wrote:

Ah, but you still remember it Rich! Your misery was actually some great character building! ;)

The more misery, the more memorable!

Gene

On Sunday, March 27, 2016 at 12:05:31 PM UTC-4, Richard Farino wrote:

First time I ever fished the park was mid-summer and we hiked in from the top. It was 101 degrees and humid that day. A 45 minute hike down was an hour and a half death march back up. And I was tong then too.

I learned my lesson quick. Now I let gravity do most of he work. I just hike higher on the way in.

R

On Mar 27, 2016, at 11:46 AM, TurbineBlade <doubl...@gmail.com> wrote:

I don't have a real preference just so long as I get out there ;). Fishing from skyline downward is great exercise, great scenery, and often less pressure. Most of the time we rake in the most numbers that way too. Like you said though, it can be tiring and is harder for us to do 2-days in a row. We probably do about 50-50.

Gene

On Sunday, March 27, 2016 at 11:23:11 AM UTC-4, namfos wrote:
Better have a car at the bottom, if you ask me. Also don't make a hasty decision. ;-)

Mark

On Sunday, March 27, 2016 at 8:26:23 AM UTC-4, Terry C wrote:
Gene, when you fish the park do you tend to fish from the top down, I like going in at the bottom of the streams , fishing up, knowing that at the end of the day when I'm tired I can walk down hill. This means I don't usually make it up to the head water. I need to make it a point to drive up skyline drive and fish the top of these waters some day.

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