Shad

[tsm...@gmail.com]

Has anyone seen any shad this weekend?
I'm going to give it a try tomorrow afternoon......
I hope to see a few others out there.

another interesting shad matter.....
The Anacostia Watershed Society (AWS)
does some great work on the long term restoration of that troubled river and feeder streams. There latest newsletter discusses seeding shad on the Anscostia watershed. The folks at AWS are providing shad eggs to school classes to hatch and release. I look forward to casting for shad on those improving waters.

[Gregg DiSalvo]

I fished the rapp saturday.  crystal clear and low water, but cold.  Saw a whole lot of nothing.  3 fly rods working a mile stretch and numerous spin guys.  NOTHING.  Cold had them turned around.  

Heard there was some catching yesterday afternoon in DC.  


Speaking of Shad in the classroom, has anybody heard anything about that "Shad Run" doc a few folks were working on kickstarter 3 or so years ago?  I think they had interviewed some involved in similar programs.

Gregg

[Jonathan Sondej]

I fished about 3.5 hours for two shad at Fletcher's yesterday that happened within 5 minutes of each other. 

On Sunday, April 8, 2018 at 9:58:43 PM UTC-4, tsm...@gmail.com wrote:

[tperkins]

I was in a boat yesterday afternoon at Fletchers, pretty good fishing with some nice size hickories. Caught 20 or so. Mostly on either  a white and red fly or chartreuse. Occasionally the bite would pick up and it would be fish or strike every other cast, but typically it was slower. 

[Ben Rogers]

I caught 2 and saw quite a few gizzard shad between little falls and chain bridge on sunday.

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[Andrew Sarcinello]

I went to a favorite eddy near chain bridge Sunday afternoon and fished it for an hour - nothing.  Then went up to the rapids of Little Falls and wrangled some gizzard shad.  Eventually one actually ate the fly. Better than nothing!

On Sunday, April 8, 2018 at 9:58:43 PM UTC-4, tsm...@gmail.com wrote:

[Terry C]

I fished the Rapp on Sunday,  after 2 hrs down river of the Rt 1 bridge with only 1 shad, I moved up above the bridge and fished the seams and small pools.  There were a ton of shad up river above RT 1.  It was like trout fishing for shad.  Much prefer the Fletchers experience in a boat.  It should be crazy after this weeks temps .

On Sunday, April 8, 2018 at 9:58:43 PM UTC-4, tsm...@gmail.com wrote:

[Gregg DiSalvo]

Shhhhhhh.  It's gunna be horrible...Nobody go out and fish ;) 


Also wish I had ventured above the bridge.  Silly not to but hindsight is 20/20 

[Terry C]

On Sunday, April 8, 2018 at 9:58:43 PM UTC-4, tsm...@gmail.com wrote:

Sunday morning between 7:00 and 10:00. Managed to get into some shad. Not epic but enough to make it worth wile. Temps dropped 10 degrees and winds came up. More Americans came to hand than Hickory’s. Very surprised

[Severn]

Went to Fletcher's yesterday and it was almost impossible to get a rowboat.  Apparently all the boats were out before dawn and a long waitlist the rest of the day. 

On Sunday, April 8, 2018 at 9:58:43 PM UTC-4, tsm...@gmail.com wrote:

[Alexander Vu]

I caught 27 hickory shad on 4/12/18 in 3 hours on purple shad jig, orange shad jigs size 10 hooks and snowhite damsel.  Did anyone catch American shad yet?
Alex

On Sunday, April 8, 2018 at 9:58:43 PM UTC-4, tsm...@gmail.com wrote:

[Bobby Davis]

Additionally,

If you are only catching hickories...does it mean you need to do something different to catch American's?  

[Lane Thurgood]

See Terry's post two up.  He caught more Americans than hickories on Sunday.  I had the same experience last Friday.  I have been fishing the shad run for a dozen years or so and I can honestly say in that entire time, it's the first time that happened to me. I think i probably had 2:1 Americans to hickories.   

And in response to Bobby's question, as a general rule, people fish lower and slower for Americans, but you may also need to change spots (and schools).  Sometimes with hickories, the fast retrieves (even hand-over-hand) light them up.  When I got into my school of Americans on Friday, it was a wet fly type swing followed by maybe three inch slow "bump" strips rather than faster longer strips.

I catch more Americans from boat than shore, but I have caught Americans from shore.

On Tuesday, April 17, 2018 at 8:11:57 AM UTC-4, Alexander Vu wrote:

[Richard Lin]

I have caught some shad. I was not sure if they were American or hickory. I knew about the one dot and more dots on sides. When I catch it, it has only one dot when I look at it directly. Then I see more dots when I look at it with little tilt.

 

Which one do you think? I caught about 15 shads, lost one and lost shooting head line (broke off from running line. I used spey two hands rod) last Saturday. 

 

https://vimeo.com/265232270

 

Thanks

Richard

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[Bobby Davis]

The easiest way to tell is the shape of the mouth and head.  Hickory shad have bad over bites while Americans don't.  Americans have a slightly rounder head profile too.  

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[Alexander Vu]

Richard: that is a hickory. The mouth oh the hickory shad is larger on the bottom jaw. The American shad now that are equal.

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[Richard Lin]

I see that now. Thanks Alex and Bobby.

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[Richard Farino]

Underbite.  A Hickory shad’s lower jaw protrudes past the upper jaw when closed.  General size is also a good indicator, with hickories being moderately smaller than Americans, but nothing’s set in stone.

 

Regards,

 

R

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[Bobby Davis]

Ah yes,  was distracted while typing.  Underbites not overbites.  

This is informative.

http://www.ncfishes.com/shad-identification/

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[Yambag Nelson]

Like someone else mentioned, the best way to catch Americans is to fish slow and deep. I barely strip the line. A few inches at a time with very long pauses in between. I almost always catch fewer fish than other guys so you will probably sacrifice numbers for size.

[Richard Lin]

How long they are going to stay in Fletchers Cove? 1 week? 2 weeks?

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[N Elgas]

I got one american on Monday in the chocolate milk right at gordons rock.  But only hickorys the Friday before.  I haven't seen them come in like last year yet,  but i think the water is still colder.  it was still only 51 in fetchers on Friday.  

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How long they are going to stay in Fletchers Cove? 1 week? 2 weeks?

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Like someone else mentioned, the best way to catch Americans is to fish slow and deep.  I barely strip the line.  A few inches at a time with very long pauses in between.   I almost always catch fewer fish than other guys so you will probably sacrifice numbers for size.

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[Andrew C]

A friend and I were out at Fletchers last night. River was still very high, muddy, and fast. Much of the trail we walked over the weekend was flooded.

There were a bunch of people fishing in the side creek, near the boat dock, and someone was pulling in a fish every few minutes. The shad must've been hanging there while the river was high.

[Alexander Vu]

Yeah, my 8 yo son and I went there just to see and he was pulling in fish every minute with a spin cast rod, American shads about 12-16 inch.  Not the kind of fishing that I like to do but a huge confidence boost for him :). He had a blast.

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[Mark Binsted]

Those were gizzard shad. The Cove is full of them now along with river herring. American shad are quite a bit longer.

Mark