quick fly tying question

[Nedak]

Tying a bead/cone head wolly bugger.  Does it matter if I wrap lead for weight rather than conehead or does the shiny bead attract the fish.

Thanks.

[Jeffrey Silvan]

I'm not sure if the coneheads attract the fish, but it'll give it a different action. A nose-weighted fly will have a greater "dive" compared to an evenly weighted fly that will sink a little more level.

On Thu, Jul 11, 2013 at 10:32 AM, Nedak <johng...@gmail.com> wrote:

Tying a bead/cone head wolly bugger.  Does it matter if I wrap lead for weight rather than conehead or does the shiny bead attract the fish.

Thanks.

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[Scott Stankus]

Bottom line, tie a few of each to have in your box. See which you prefer fishing and which you find to be more productive. There's nothing wrong with tying them either way. And while you're at it, you could vary the color and size of the coneheads/beads - black, copper, gold, etc.

 

Tom Rosenbauer has said that he ties most of his beadhead nymphs with a black bead because he wants the weight, but thinks that some trout are spooked by a shiny gold or copper bead.

 

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[Matthew Longley]

Yea, a general rule of thumb is that the spookier the fish, the less flash you should have.  So I suppose the wooly bugger spectrum goes shiny beadhead, black/glass beadhead, no beadhead.  And the action is definitely different with a beadhead versus lead-wrapped fly.  So yes, tie up a bunch of everything and keep switching til it works!

On Thursday, July 11, 2013 10:40:05 AM UTC-4, Scott S wrote:

Bottom line, tie a few of each to have in your box. See which you prefer fishing and which you find to be more productive. There's nothing wrong with tying them either way. And while you're at it, you could vary the color and size of the coneheads/beads - black, copper, gold, etc.

 

Tom Rosenbauer has said that he ties most of his beadhead nymphs with a black bead because he wants the weight, but thinks that some trout are spooked by a shiny gold or copper bead.

 

--Scott

On Thu, Jul 11, 2013 at 10:35 AM, Jeffrey Silvan <jeffre...@gmail.com> wrote:

I'm not sure if the coneheads attract the fish, but it'll give it a different action. A nose-weighted fly will have a greater "dive" compared to an evenly weighted fly that will sink a little more level.

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Tying a bead/cone head wolly bugger.  Does it matter if I wrap lead for weight rather than conehead or does the shiny bead attract the fish.

Thanks.

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[Danny Barrett]

personally id do both.  but i like big heavy flies as of late. i tie a bunch of them and just wrap the lead or heads differently, so some are head heavy, some are back end heavy and so on. just play with it and have fun.

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On Thu, Jul 11, 2013 at 10:32 AM, Nedak <johng...@gmail.com> wrote:

Tying a bead/cone head wolly bugger.  Does it matter if I wrap lead for weight rather than conehead or does the shiny bead attract the fish.

Thanks.

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[Eric Y.]

Probably not worth much, but I base it on the movement I want and what I'm imitating. So, I tie black buggers with black bead heads after seeing a leech swimming in the New River with a jigging sort of motion and I tie most brown or olive buggers with bronze cone heads to get a better crawfish hop motion, and everything else with lead wraps. Probably mostly psychological for me, but that's one approach, at least. If you wanted them, there are probably matte finish bronze coneheads available somewhere so you could split the difference.

 

On Thursday, July 11, 2013 10:45:15 AM UTC-4, Danny Barrett wrote:

personally id do both.  but i like big heavy flies as of late. i tie a bunch of them and just wrap the lead or heads differently, so some are head heavy, some are back end heavy and so on. just play with it and have fun.

Thanks,

Dan Barrett

 

MSA Fall Protection CoOp 

1100 Cranberry Woods Drive, 

Cranberry TWP, PA

3610 Dawson Ave

Pittsburgh, PA

 

dannyt...@gmail.com

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On Thu, Jul 11, 2013 at 10:32 AM, Nedak <johng...@gmail.com> wrote:

Tying a bead/cone head wolly bugger.  Does it matter if I wrap lead for weight rather than conehead or does the shiny bead attract the fish.

Thanks.

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[TurbineBlade]

I do like Scott says -- multiple weights and configurations.  I usually just tie whatever I happen to see at the time and go "oh yeah, I have those silver beads!"...and so forth.  I've collected enough crap now that I forget what I have and it's like a surprise.  It works best if you buy some stuff at the fly shop and leave it in the bag when you get home.  

Gene

[namfos]

Echoing the advice previously posted, tie up the permutations - also consider using glass beads with or without addition weight from lead or other wire. 

Mark

[Bryan Lanier]

My best success has been with cone head black or olive wooly buggers. On the bottom they are successful for catching catfish. When swung the bass seem to hit them at he end of the swing when the bugger is rising.

Bryan

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[Bob Bishop]

The weight of the bead or cone causes the fly to dive giving it more life like action.