[Danny Barrett]

Happy holidays everyone,

Got a new rod for Christmas. I'm need of a line now. It's a 8 weight switch rob I plan on throwing 4 to 6 inch streamers with heavy sink tips and big nymph set ups. Any suggestions for a line?

Thanks,

Dan Barrett
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[Scott Stankus]

Awesome! I have the 3D Depth Charge line from Orvis for both my 8- and 10-wt rods and I love it!

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[Terry C]

Congrats, it was rod Christmas in my house also. New 13 ft 7 wt Speyrod for me and 9ft 5wt for the son. Go to Roi website they have a good line selector tool. I have a 510 switch chucker good for nymphing and doubles as a skagit line on my 8 wt switch and a 8wt Scandinavia short versi tip system.

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> Congrats, it was rod Christmas in my house also. New 13 ft 7 wt Speyrod for me and 9ft 5wt for the son. Go to Roi website they have a good line selector tool. I have a 510 switch chucker good for nymphing and doubles as a skagit line on my 8 wt switch and a 8wt Scandinavia short versi tip system.
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[Daniel Davala]

I'd toss a Skagit head in the range of 500-550 grains depending on the rod.  Head length anywhere from 20'-25'. 

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[John Bilotta]

Me too. 

Tips probably  8-10'.

John

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[Yambag Nelson]

What the heck are you doing with it that you are planning on throwing flies that big?

But I agree, Skagit head is the way to go.  Not sure which one without knowing exactly what rod it is. 550 seems like an awful lot for a switch.

[Terry C]

Danny, you are welcome to try my lines if you want.

[Daniel Davala]

Actually, 500-550 is right in the wheelhouse of most modern #8 switch rods.  I toss a 450 on my #7 and it could take more if needed.  If you check out the current RIO line recs, most #8 switches are somewhere between 475 and 575 depending on  manufacturer.  Maybe the OP can shed some light on the actual rod model.  What did you get Danny?

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[Danny Barrett]

It's a orvis helios 2 8 switch. Thank you so far for the input.

Dan Barrett
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[Daniel Davala]

SWEET ROD - nice gift!  Well, we rate that rod for 500 grains for skagit, but I've cast it with more.  Key piece of data is your intention to toss some pretty good size flies.  Simply put, it takes mass to move mass, so depending on how beefy the flies are you may want to err on the slightly heavy side.  525 might be a good compromise.  

John Bilotta has pretty much every head produced for the last five years or so.  It may be in your best interest to hit him up for a lesson/ line selection session.  That way, you can get your technique right, then switch out heads in 25 grain increments until you get the feel you personally like.  Best to bring along some of your large patterns too.  Chucking yarn is a bit different than large flies.  To get the big stuff to fly, it can sometimes take an adjustment on anchor placement and tip selection.  It's amazing the impact that either can have.  Have fun in the process, you'll most likely end up with several different heads to do different work which will make for an incredibly versatile setup.

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[Danny Barrett]

Alright. Thanks for all the info. I will have to reach out to him. I'm in northern VA for the holidays.

Dan Barrett
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[Carl Z.]

Are switch rods usually rated with single hand line weights or spey line weights?  When I first read the question, I assumed 8wt was for a single hand weight, but 500grains seems like a spey line weight for an 8wt.  

Does it depend on manufacturer?  I thought I saw single hand weight ratings on some switch rods.

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[John Bilotta]

Usually Spey weights. 

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[Daniel Davala]

Agree.  Nearly all US manufacturers and most European ones rate switch rods for two-hand lines.

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[Yambag Nelson]

 Interesting.  I haven't cast the helios, but my beaulah 11 foot 8 weight is rated for like a 425 grain Skagit.

On Friday, December 26, 2014 10:13:01 PM UTC-5, Dan Davala - Founder/President wrote:

Actually, 500-550 is right in the wheelhouse of most modern #8 switch rods.  I toss a 450 on my #7 and it could take more if needed.  If you check out the current RIO line recs, most #8 switches are somewhere between 475 and 575 depending on  manufacturer.  Maybe the OP can shed some light on the actual rod model.  What did you get Danny?

Dan Davala

On Friday, December 26, 2014, Yambag Nelson <northstreetwreckingcrew@gmail.com> wrote:

What the heck are you doing with it that you are planning on throwing flies that big?

But I agree, Skagit head is the way to go.  Not sure which one without knowing exactly what rod it is. 550 seems like an awful lot for a switch.
On Thursday, December 25, 2014 12:42:39 PM UTC-5, Danny Barrett wrote:

Happy holidays everyone,

Got a new rod for Christmas. I'm need of a line now. It's a 8 weight switch rob I plan on throwing 4 to 6 inch streamers with heavy sink tips and big nymph set ups. Any suggestions for a line?

Thanks,

Dan Barrett
540-222-8064

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