Switch Line

[Richard DeafFly Lin]

Hey - I will have 5wt switch rod soon. I am planning to purchase a switch line. I have checked Rio switch line and Orvis Hydros 3D switch and Access switch line. The users put 4.5/5 stars on them. However the colors is still bothering me. Will the color bold red spook any trout? Have you try any one of these switch lines or different brands? 

Thanks

Richard

[Eric Y.]

Doubtful - I've been using a day-glo orange line on my 5wt single hander for a few years now with no trouble.

I will note though, that on my 6wt switch rod, I found the Hydros 3D switch line to be on par with a 9wt or so overhand line. It didn't really let me fully experience TH casting like I was able to when I switched to a Skagit head. FWIW, I cut the head off the Hydros line and looped the end of the running line and the end of the Hydros line. That lets me switch heads without having to buy a new running line. I now use the switch head when OH casting the rod while high-sticking nymphs for trout, in the surf, or from a kayak, all places where the extra length is particularly useful but the water anchor isn't particularly so. 

[Bob Sivinski]

I agree.  I have a 5/6 switch and in my opinion the Rio switch line is too heavy for one hand casting and the belly is too long for two hand casting.  I have a skagit head and a WF7W line for it now.

[Steve]

I'm in the same boat/situation. I'm using the AirFlo switch skagit line on a 6wt switch rod and LOVE IT.   But it ain't very "switch" for me cuz I can't find a good overhead line to throw.  I tried the 40 plus on a few rods (too many) and it throws me off.  Should I throw my 7wt bass line on it?  I was thinking it would be a great kayak rod but need to dial in on some overhead line for it.  Steve

On Oct 6, 2013, at 5:45 PM, Bob Sivinski <bob...@gmail.com> wrote:

I agree.  I have a 5/6 switch and in my opinion the Rio switch line is too heavy for one hand casting and the belly is too long for two hand casting.  I have a skagit head and a WF7W line for it now.

I will note though, that on my 6wt switch rod, I found the Hydros 3D switch line to be on par with a 9wt or so overhand line. It didn't really let me fully experience TH casting like I was able to when I switched to a Skagit head. FWIW, I cut the head off the Hydros line and looped the end of the running line and the end of the Hydros line. That lets me switch heads without having to buy a new running line. I now use the switch head when OH casting the rod while high-sticking nymphs for trout, in the surf, or from a kayak, all places where the extra length is particularly useful but the water anchor isn't particularly so. 

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[Eric Y.]

Bob, to be clear, I can TH OH cast the switch line just fine - what I meant was that it seems to be about the same weight as a 9wt line and the rod throws it just fine. Indeed, the first month I had the rod, I used a 9wt line on it before buying the switch line, which was a disappointment because I saw little improvement in traditional TH casting. It just wasn't heavy enough to load the rod from the water. TH OH casting is a wonderful use of a switch rod, especially in the surf. You can really reach out and touch 'em. In a pinch, you won't lose much performance in OH casting by just lining up 2-3 weights and adding a sink tip and most of us already have a 8-10wt line.

On Sunday, October 6, 2013 5:57:22 PM UTC-4, dubblehaul wrote:

I'm in the same boat/situation. I'm using the AirFlo switch skagit line on a 6wt switch rod and LOVE IT.   But it ain't very "switch" for me cuz I can't find a good overhead line to throw.  I tried the 40 plus on a few rods (too many) and it throws me off.  Should I throw my 7wt bass line on it?  I was thinking it would be a great kayak rod but need to dial in on some overhead line for it.  Steve

On Oct 6, 2013, at 5:45 PM, Bob Sivinski <bob...@gmail.com> wrote:

I agree.  I have a 5/6 switch and in my opinion the Rio switch line is too heavy for one hand casting and the belly is too long for two hand casting.  I have a skagit head and a WF7W line for it now.

I will note though, that on my 6wt switch rod, I found the Hydros 3D switch line to be on par with a 9wt or so overhand line. It didn't really let me fully experience TH casting like I was able to when I switched to a Skagit head. FWIW, I cut the head off the Hydros line and looped the end of the running line and the end of the Hydros line. That lets me switch heads without having to buy a new running line. I now use the switch head when OH casting the rod while high-sticking nymphs for trout, in the surf, or from a kayak, all places where the extra length is particularly useful but the water anchor isn't particularly so. 

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[Richard DeafFly Lin]

Hi everyone,

I am trying to understand how the lines system set up on switch rod. It sounds like that you are using shoot head. If it is, then I will need to buy tips (float and sink - average 15' )? then the final - lead/tippet 7'-9'? Is it correct?

Richard

[Eric Y.]

Yes. My set up goes like this:

Backing> Running Line (in my case, the belly of my switch line)> Skagit Head> Tip (floating or sinking)> Leader

For streamers, just a 4' length of regular mono seems to work fine for a leader. With nymphs and wet flies, I usually use some sort of tied tapered leader. 

For OH casting, I take off the Skagit and tip sections and replace it with the head from the switch line.

Give Dan a call at Orvis and he'll get you all set up.