Muddy river

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Barracuda

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Aug 13, 2014, 10:19:01 PM8/13/14
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Biked in to work today in DC. Around Fletchers I could see the river -- completely muddy from the big rains on Tuesday. Anyone have a clue how long it might take to clear (assuming no further rain of consequence)?

Andy Thomas

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Aug 14, 2014, 10:15:04 AM8/14/14
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Did you see the C&O?  I get off early today and thought about heading up there to fish a little.  Was it really muddy/high as well?

mbin...@rcn.com

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Aug 14, 2014, 11:19:36 AM8/14/14
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The Canal is muddy at Fletcher's, but don't forget that the water above Lock 5 (Brookmont) comes in at Seneca, possibly less muddy this time from a very localized storm. However, a few small Mont. Co. streams do bring muddy water to sections of the Canal up there.  Widewater often stays nice as the silt has time to filter out on its way down from Seneca.

Dalton Terrell

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Aug 14, 2014, 11:35:27 AM8/14/14
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The Little Falls Gauge now (I think this feature is new???) has a reading on turbidity, this needs to be near zero (<5) for the river to look clear. It's hard to say exactly when it will be in good shape, but I would guess it should definitely be fine by Saturday.

The canal was quite muddy yesterday but somewhat fishable.

Dalton

Mike Bailey

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Aug 14, 2014, 11:49:52 AM8/14/14
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USGS has added a lot of sensors at LF.  This 32295 CDOM, fluorescence, <5 ft from riverbed> may be the one to follow.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Colored_dissolved_organic_matter



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Bruce Thomson

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Aug 15, 2014, 8:59:06 AM8/15/14
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As of last night, the canal between locks 7 and 8 was high and very muddy still. The Potomac itself was a bit high and colored, but fishable up there.


On Thursday, August 14, 2014 11:49:52 AM UTC-4, Mike wrote:
USGS has added a lot of sensors at LF.  This 32295 CDOM, fluorescence, <5 ft from riverbed> may be the one to follow.

On Thu, Aug 14, 2014 at 11:35 AM, Dalton Terrell <daltonb...@gmail.com> wrote:
The Little Falls Gauge now (I think this feature is new???) has a reading on turbidity, this needs to be near zero (<5) for the river to look clear. It's hard to say exactly when it will be in good shape, but I would guess it should definitely be fine by Saturday.

The canal was quite muddy yesterday but somewhat fishable.

Dalton

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Patrick Kearns

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Aug 15, 2014, 9:07:49 AM8/15/14
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Turbidity is also an informative measure.  Here's a picture of some turbidity standards (hope this doesn't violate the commerical sites prohibition - just a picture of cloudy water in beakers - but if so, my apologies) for comparison.  Makes the last reading of 9.8 seem alright, especially if it keeps trending downwards.




On Thursday, August 14, 2014 11:49:52 AM UTC-4, Mike wrote:
USGS has added a lot of sensors at LF.  This 32295 CDOM, fluorescence, <5 ft from riverbed> may be the one to follow.

On Thu, Aug 14, 2014 at 11:35 AM, Dalton Terrell <daltonb...@gmail.com> wrote:
The Little Falls Gauge now (I think this feature is new???) has a reading on turbidity, this needs to be near zero (<5) for the river to look clear. It's hard to say exactly when it will be in good shape, but I would guess it should definitely be fine by Saturday.

The canal was quite muddy yesterday but somewhat fishable.

Dalton

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TurbineBlade

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Aug 15, 2014, 10:24:58 AM8/15/14
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Sure, but at least 2 of the 3  YSI units curently on the river get clogged with amphipods (scuds) and thus provide an instantaneous measure of scud abundance vs. clarity.  

I use Rob's "usually it'll take a week" measure for fishing after rain events and it seems an accurate as anything else to me ;).  

Gene

Marek Rich

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Aug 15, 2014, 10:33:06 AM8/15/14
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So yes or no to fishing today?

 

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Sure, but at least 2 of the 3  YSI units curently on the river get clogged with amphipods (scuds) and thus provide an instantaneous measure of scud abundance vs. clarity.  

 

I use Rob's "usually it'll take a week" measure for fishing after rain events and it seems an accurate as anything else to me ;).  

 

Gene


On Friday, August 15, 2014 9:07:49 AM UTC-4, Patrick Kearns wrote:

Turbidity is also an informative measure.  Here's a picture of some turbidity standards (hope this doesn't violate the commerical sites prohibition - just a picture of cloudy water in beakers - but if so, my apologies) for comparison.  Makes the last reading of 9.8 seem alright, especially if it keeps trending downwards.



On Thursday, August 14, 2014 11:49:52 AM UTC-4, Mike wrote:

USGS has added a lot of sensors at LF.  This 32295 CDOM, fluorescence, <5 ft from riverbed> may be the one to follow.

 

On Thu, Aug 14, 2014 at 11:35 AM, Dalton Terrell <daltonb...@gmail.com> wrote:

The Little Falls Gauge now (I think this feature is new???) has a reading on turbidity, this needs to be near zero (<5) for the river to look clear. It's hard to say exactly when it will be in good shape, but I would guess it should definitely be fine by Saturday.

 

The canal was quite muddy yesterday but somewhat fishable.

 

Dalton

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TurbineBlade

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Aug 15, 2014, 10:39:07 AM8/15/14
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Do you have any scuds?

Gene


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So yes or no to fishing today?

 

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Sure, but at least 2 of the 3  YSI units curently on the river get clogged with amphipods (scuds) and thus provide an instantaneous measure of scud abundance vs. clarity.  

 

I use Rob's "usually it'll take a week" measure for fishing after rain events and it seems an accurate as anything else to me ;).  

 

Gene


On Friday, August 15, 2014 9:07:49 AM UTC-4, Patrick Kearns wrote:

Turbidity is also an informative measure.  Here's a picture of some turbidity standards (hope this doesn't violate the commerical sites prohibition - just a picture of cloudy water in beakers - but if so, my apologies) for comparison.  Makes the last reading of 9.8 seem alright, especially if it keeps trending downwards.



On Thursday, August 14, 2014 11:49:52 AM UTC-4, Mike wrote:

USGS has added a lot of sensors at LF.  This 32295 CDOM, fluorescence, <5 ft from riverbed> may be the one to follow.

 

On Thu, Aug 14, 2014 at 11:35 AM, Dalton Terrell <daltonb...@gmail.com> wrote:

The Little Falls Gauge now (I think this feature is new???) has a reading on turbidity, this needs to be near zero (<5) for the river to look clear. It's hard to say exactly when it will be in good shape, but I would guess it should definitely be fine by Saturday.

 

The canal was quite muddy yesterday but somewhat fishable.

 

Dalton

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Marek Rich

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Aug 15, 2014, 10:49:01 AM8/15/14
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yes

 

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Do you have any scuds?

 

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Scott Stankus

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Aug 15, 2014, 11:02:19 AM8/15/14
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(Almost) Always yes! If you have the time and there no safety hazards, get out and fish. Don't be put off by conditions, because you never know when you might hook into the fish of a lifetime!

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Greg Feder

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Aug 15, 2014, 11:22:29 AM8/15/14
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Marek (and the rest of you not stuck in an office on this gorgeous day) --
 
I agree with Scott.  It's going to be a beautiful low humidity day.  Fishing likely will be awesome.  Catching on the other hand....?
 
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Marek Rich

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Aug 15, 2014, 11:55:53 AM8/15/14
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Heading to Violettes or Swains lock this afternoon around 2. If anyone wants to join, let me know.


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Rob Snowhite

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Aug 15, 2014, 12:23:44 PM8/15/14
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The wind should help push the mud out to sea. I plan on being out all day tomorrow from Gravelly to 4MR.
 
Rob Snowhite

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Gus1Gus1

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Aug 15, 2014, 2:57:08 PM8/15/14
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I just got back from a walk around the tidal basin.  It was still rather stained.  Saw one guy with a spinning rod, but he wasn't fishing.  Saw one fish take something on the surface, close to the Jefferson Memorial.  Water levels up, too, onto the sidewalk in areas. The water was, however, rather calm.


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TurbineBlade

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Aug 16, 2014, 8:45:22 AM8/16/14
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Sorry Marek -- obnoxious sarcasm on my part doesn't always translate.  I can't get out today, but the tribs near here are totally clear and look very fishable.  I took the 'Marek Special' (9' 5-weight) out for a couple of hours yesterday evening and caught a fairly decent number of sunfish, but nothing else.  

Gene

Rob Snowhite

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Aug 16, 2014, 9:52:27 AM8/16/14
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Gravelly ramp crystal clear, mainstream green brown minimal visibility 

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