Building Furled Leaders Without Tools.

[MattT]

I ran across this video on youtube the other day. I have never seen this before, but I gave it a shot and it works great. Has anyone every had these guys unravel during fishing? Seems like an easy and cheap way to build some leaders during the "thunder snow". I was pretty surprised how well it worked. 

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pbcVaEe3RIs

[Vic Velasco]

I use furled leaders just because I'm used to them (and like them more than tapered leaders).  I've used Blue Sky but now use Cutthroat.  Neither of those have ever untangled (unfurled) on me, even if the end loops broke (which they have).

I have seen other methods for using three separate pieces of mono, furling them together to get a furled leader - never a single...  I'm going to make a up few of these now (but won't be able to fish them until the weekend).  I'll let you know how they work in comparison to the ready made ones.

Thanks for the link!!!

[TurbineBlade]

Furled leaders seem to have a lot of fans -- I generally shy away from them because it appears that the heavier "butt" section that comprises the entire furled leader would resist sinking, which is counterproductive to how I usually fish.  Since I assume most people fishing furled leaders are dry fly fishing, I doubt this is a concern to most.  

Gene

On Monday, March 3, 2014 8:54:05 AM UTC-5, MattT wrote:

[Vic Velasco]

I just built one out of 4# fluro.  It wanted to spin up on itself at the free ends, but I got my two kids to help keep enough tension to allow the ends to spin and me to continue to furl.

I think it is for that same reason that these will not unfurl during fishing - as a fish pulls, it will only serve to straighten the coil, but unless the fish spins counter to the furl direction (and hundreds of times at that), the furl will stay.

I'm going to try mono next to see if it has the same tendancy to spin up at the bitter ends as I furl.  If yes, I'll try and use a couple of 1/4 ounce sinkers to keep tension on the ends.

Thanks for pointing out the video!  I can now say my snowday was productive (besides all the shoveling)!

On Monday, March 3, 2014 8:54:05 AM UTC-5, MattT wrote:

[Smalliefly]

Gene, use fluoro and it will not resist sinking

Matt and Vic, did not watch, but have done it lots. Another method is 3 strand twisted and makes a nicer product in terms of laying out, but then you have to connect (knot) sections made with say 3 strands of 12 lb for butt, 3 strands of 8 lb for middle, 3 strands of 4 lb for lower... Using 6 or 8 or 4 lb and doing the twist, then twisting the twisted for the butt (still need a knot where 4 strands and 2 strands meet) works fine, and big advantage is that you can do that stream side in 5 minutes if you find yourself with no leader, but you have tippet.
Also, with 3 strand method, you can dial in taper better based on diameter of the 3 strand sections. With the one continuous, you are locked into 4 strands, 2 strands, 1 strand, all same diameter or test.
Pros cons to each. And of course true furled on a jig (not hard at all to set up a jig) means knotless.
Could be a corner activity at a beer tie...
Stay warm,
Ron

[Carl Z.]

Build one and you will see.  It is not what I was expecting.  If I were fishing for a lot of larger fish with sharp teeth and I had to change leaders often, I might like it.  For my freshwater fishing around here, I will stick with Nylon leaders or standard furled leaders.

Carl

On Mon, Mar 3, 2014 at 8:54 AM, MattT <matthe...@gmail.com> wrote:

I ran across this video on youtube the other day. I have never seen this before, but I gave it a shot and it works great. Has anyone every had these guys unravel during fishing? Seems like an easy and cheap way to build some leaders during the "thunder snow". I was pretty surprised how well it worked. 

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pbcVaEe3RIs

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[Dave Marcus]

I started using furled leaders last season and love them. I've only ever furled my own from a single piece of 6lb flouro. I've never had it unravel, although I know that I can do a better job furling my next one. My only complaint is when I have to change tippit. I have to carefully snip off the knot at the loop of the furled leader, always a nervewracking proposition cause if I snip the leader the whole thing is garbage. I just ordered some tippet rings which I'm excited to try on my new homemade furled leaders to try and avoid this problem.

David

On Tuesday, March 4, 2014 12:51:44 AM UTC-5, Carl wrote:

Build one and you will see.  It is not what I was expecting.  If I were fishing for a lot of larger fish with sharp teeth and I had to change leaders often, I might like it.  For my freshwater fishing around here, I will stick with Nylon leaders or standard furled leaders.

Carl

On Mon, Mar 3, 2014 at 8:54 AM, MattT <matthe...@gmail.com> wrote:

I ran across this video on youtube the other day. I have never seen this before, but I gave it a shot and it works great. Has anyone every had these guys unravel during fishing? Seems like an easy and cheap way to build some leaders during the "thunder snow". I was pretty surprised how well it worked. 

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pbcVaEe3RIs

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[Matthew Longley]

Thinking of building a scrapwood jig this weekend to try it out.  Buts isn't a furled leader going to have a much more significant profile on the water, and doesn't that kind of eliminate the purpose of having a long leader?

[david marcus]

I'm not sure about a larger profile, the butt end of an extruded or built leader is fairly large, probably close to 15lb mono in size. Even if a furled leader is slightly larger the real advantage I've found is the supple nature of the leader. This leads to a number of advantages IMHO

1. A more delicate presentation if fishing dry's

2. Less link kink or memory

3. Because of item number 2 I believe it imparts better energy transfer through the cast

4. I end up spending less money on extruded leaders, in theory one well built furled leader could last a good portion of the season with far fewer knots being tied. i.e. you never have to rebuild leaders, just add more tippit.

This was actually the video I used to build my first furled leader. Word of caution, your hands will get sweaty and make it hard to spin the line(I used 6lb floro).

Maybe it's because I used a lighter line (he used 15lb mono in the video cause it shows up better) but when I furled it I didn't notice any significant size differences between my extruded leaders. The only difference is a clearer delineation between where I fold over the butt section to the rest of the leader. In an extruded leader this is a more gentle transition. Due to the supple nature of the leader though, this lack of a continuous transition doesn't seem to make a difference. I'm a convert, can you tell :)

David

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