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Jeffrey Silvan

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I had a four day trip booked to stick some redfish in the marshes of Louisiana with Greg Moon of Louisiana Fly Fishing Charters. Unfortunately, the weather didn't cooperate, and the wind picked up too hard to fish the last 3 of the 4 days. BUT, the one day I got on the water was nothing short of phenomenal. In fact, the best day of fishing I have ever had, period. We lost count of the redfish after the first couple, but I wound up with somewhere around 20 or 25 redfish plus two black drum. I caught one "baby" fish that was about 12 lbs, one fish in the upper teens, and all the rest were in the 20 lb range, with the average being about 25 lbs and a few creeping close to 30 lbs. This time of year, the fish school up like crazy. We got into a school of thousands upon thousands of black drum, with some redfish scattered in it. In the picture "7056" you can see all the white spots in the water - those are all fish. Acres of them. This was one of two schools we fished all day. You quikcly stopped bothering fishing the black drum because they aren't nearly as excited. The second school we fished had far more reds in it. Towards the end of the day, I stopped even casting to fish that I didn't think had a shot to break 30. Absolutely unreal fishing. With how bruised and tired I was from day 1, I can't imagine was it would've been like it the weather held for me.
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Scott Stankus

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Sweet!!

On Mon, Oct 19, 2015 at 6:23 PM, Jeffrey Silvan <jeffre...@gmail.com> wrote:
I had a four day trip booked to stick some redfish in the marshes of Louisiana with Greg Moon of Louisiana Fly Fishing Charters. Unfortunately, the weather didn't cooperate, and the wind picked up too hard to fish the last 3 of the 4 days. BUT, the one day I got on the water was nothing short of phenomenal. In fact, the best day of fishing I have ever had, period. We lost count of the redfish after the first couple, but I wound up with somewhere around 20 or 25 redfish plus two black drum. I caught one "baby" fish that was about 12 lbs, one fish in the upper teens, and all the rest were in the 20 lb range, with the average being about 25 lbs and a few creeping close to 30 lbs. This time of year, the fish school up like crazy. We got into a school of thousands upon thousands of black drum, with some redfish scattered in it. In the picture "7056" you can see all the white spots in the water - those are all fish. Acres of them. This was one of two schools we fished all day. You quikcly stopped bothering fishing the black drum because they aren't nearly as excited. The second school we fished had far more reds in it. Towards the end of the day, I stopped even casting to fish that I didn't think had a shot to break 30. Absolutely unreal fishing. With how bruised and tired I was from day 1, I can't imagine was it would've been like it the weather held for me.

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TurbineBlade

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Very cool Jeff -- I enjoyed the report!

Gene


On Monday, October 19, 2015 at 9:38:06 PM UTC-4, Scott S wrote:
Sweet!!

On Mon, Oct 19, 2015 at 6:23 PM, Jeffrey Silvan <jeffre...@gmail.com> wrote:
I had a four day trip booked to stick some redfish in the marshes of Louisiana with Greg Moon of Louisiana Fly Fishing Charters. Unfortunately, the weather didn't cooperate, and the wind picked up too hard to fish the last 3 of the 4 days. BUT, the one day I got on the water was nothing short of phenomenal. In fact, the best day of fishing I have ever had, period. We lost count of the redfish after the first couple, but I wound up with somewhere around 20 or 25 redfish plus two black drum. I caught one "baby" fish that was about 12 lbs, one fish in the upper teens, and all the rest were in the 20 lb range, with the average being about 25 lbs and a few creeping close to 30 lbs. This time of year, the fish school up like crazy. We got into a school of thousands upon thousands of black drum, with some redfish scattered in it. In the picture "7056" you can see all the white spots in the water - those are all fish. Acres of them. This was one of two schools we fished all day. You quikcly stopped bothering fishing the black drum because they aren't nearly as excited. The second school we fished had far more reds in it. Towards the end of the day, I stopped even casting to fish that I didn't think had a shot to break 30. Absolutely unreal fishing. With how bruised and tired I was from day 1, I can't imagine was it would've been like it the weather held for me.

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namfos

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Very nice. Saltwater carp, right? 

;-)

Mark

tperkins

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Nicely done! 

Nedak

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Awesome.  What was your setup?  Can't tell from the picture.

TurbineBlade

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To heck with equipment! 

What was the magic fly?  Sight casting to zombie, tailing SW fish with speed, accuracy and wind is 1% of the game (says every SW fly fishing guide, ever).  99% of it is really about finding the one magic fly the fish are keying on. 

The same applies to Carp, word for word y'all. 

Gene

Kidding aside -- those are fantastic fish Jeff.  SW sight casting in my opinion demands more casting skill than any other fly fishing discipline.  I'll probably die before I catch redfish that size, or in those numbers. 

Jeffrey Silvan

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I used all the guide's gear - I know it was a Hatch 9+ reel with a Scott S4S (that thing casts like a dream, btw). I believe it was a 10 wt, but may have been a 9 wt. The big rods sure help, especially when a nice 6' bull shark showed up to investigate the "snack" of a 27 lb redfish struggling on my line. I was really able to horse the fish around to keep him safe from the shark til the guide got a shot at the shark with the push pole, scaring him away. Probably would've lost the fish to the shark if it was anything lighter weight.

To Gene's joke: the fly pattern was a brown whistler. I as actually having a bit more success with that fly the than other two boats near us were having - although to my guide's point, I was a "much better caster" than the other guys. I doubt that had anything to do with it though ;-)

The cool thing about fishing with my guide is he has two others that he works closely with on the water. They're always on the radio helping each other out with locations, how areas are fishing, etc. It's almost as if you get to cover 3 times as much ground. It's even more helpful this time of year, because with the fish schooling up, you can leave a school of mostly black drum with the scattered reds and go join one of the other guides on a school of mostly reds and still not be on top of each other.


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Richard Lin

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Awesome Redfish!! Thanks for sharing!!!

 

Richard

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Nick F - Gaucho Fly

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Great to hear you were just down that and had so much success. I wonder if we overlapped on any of the days or spots as a friend and I also fished NOLA last week with Doug Henson of Saltedflycharters and also had some epic fishing for a couple of those days, before weather rolled in. Though we did not get into any quantity of black drum we did get some shots at lots of reds and jacks, including this one and another that broke off on the hook set. As they say, always a good idea to check your leader after each fish caught...  Overall just an incredible fishery that everyone should try.  Nothing like watching 10 angry bull reds battling over a top-water fly or picking up the lone cruiser along a marsh edge.  Highly recommend adding this trip on the bucket list and surprisingly convenient to pull off considering the quality of the fishery. 



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Jeffrey Silvan

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Nick, I had Friday 10/16 through Monday 10/19 booked, but only got to fish the 16th. Saturday had an outside chance of fishing, but my guide wasn't confident enough conditions would hold and didn't want to run me just to take me on a crappy boat ride. The entire previous week and most the rest of the month was supposedly fantastic weather. Seems like that always happens to me! We didn't run into any jacks, but most of the schools of reds we found were not in locations jacks would generally go. And you didn't miss out on much with the black drum. It's cool to catch one or two, but they just don't fight hard. 10lb red fights better than a 30 lb black. Nonetheless, I can't wait to go back. My guide was already booked up for all but one day of October 2016 (so I took that), and I've already booked up my 4 day 2017 trip for this time next year.

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Marek Rich

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Greg Moon is the man. I was down in NoLa in late April and he was still putting me on fish - ie March/April sucks for Red fishing.

Justin Schiavone

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What size tippet/ leader were you rockin man? I am thinking 16 lb but after seeing this post I may need to reconsider? Are redfish leader shy at all?

On Wednesday, October 21, 2015 at 2:03:35 PM UTC-6, Marek wrote:

Greg Moon is the man. I was down in NoLa in late April and he was still putting me on fish - ie March/April sucks for Red fishing.

 

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Subject: Re: {Tidal Potomac Fly Rodders} Re: Louisiana Redfish Trip

 

Nick, I had Friday 10/16 through Monday 10/19 booked, but only got to fish the 16th. Saturday had an outside chance of fishing, but my guide wasn't confident enough conditions would hold and didn't want to run me just to take me on a crappy boat ride. The entire previous week and most the rest of the month was supposedly fantastic weather. Seems like that always happens to me! We didn't run into any jacks, but most of the schools of reds we found were not in locations jacks would generally go. And you didn't miss out on much with the black drum. It's cool to catch one or two, but they just don't fight hard. 10lb red fights better than a 30 lb black. Nonetheless, I can't wait to go back. My guide was already booked up for all but one day of October 2016 (so I took that), and I've already booked up my 4 day 2017 trip for this time next year.

On Wed, Oct 21, 2015 at 2:29 PM, Nick F - Gaucho Fly <nfran...@gmail.com> wrote:

Great to hear you were just down that and had so much success. I wonder if we overlapped on any of the days or spots as a friend and I also fished NOLA last week with Doug Henson of Saltedflycharters and also had some epic fishing for a couple of those days, before weather rolled in. Though we did not get into any quantity of black drum we did get some shots at lots of reds and jacks, including this one and another that broke off on the hook set. As they say, always a good idea to check your leader after each fish caught...  Overall just an incredible fishery that everyone should try.  Nothing like watching 10 angry bull reds battling over a top-water fly or picking up the lone cruiser along a marsh edge.  Highly recommend adding this trip on the bucket list and surprisingly convenient to pull off considering the quality of the fishery. 

 



On Monday, October 19, 2015 at 6:24:09 PM UTC-4, Jeff Silvan wrote:

I had a four day trip booked to stick some redfish in the marshes of Louisiana with Greg Moon of Louisiana Fly Fishing Charters. Unfortunately, the weather didn't cooperate, and the wind picked up too hard to fish the last 3 of the 4 days. BUT, the one day I got on the water was nothing short of phenomenal. In fact, the best day of fishing I have ever had, period. We lost count of the redfish after the first couple, but I wound up with somewhere around 20 or 25 redfish plus two black drum. I caught one "baby" fish that was about 12 lbs, one fish in the upper teens, and all the rest were in the 20 lb range, with the average being about 25 lbs and a few creeping close to 30 lbs. This time of year, the fish school up like crazy. We got into a school of thousands upon thousands of black drum, with some redfish scattered in it. In the picture "7056" you can see all the white spots in the water - those are all fish. Acres of them. This was one of two schools we fished all day. You quikcly stopped bothering fishing the black drum because they aren't nearly as excited. The second school we fished had far more reds in it. Towards the end of the day, I stopped even casting to fish that I didn't think had a shot to break 30. Absolutely unreal fishing. With how bruised and tired I was from day 1, I can't imagine was it would've been like it the weather held for me.

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Jeffrey Silvan

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Definitely not leader shy. They usually use 30lb test, but if the client requests they'll use lighter. If you want to try to stick a fly rod record, you can't use more than 20lb tippet anyway.

On Wed, Jan 20, 2016 at 12:54 PM, Justin Schiavone <justin.m....@gmail.com> wrote:
What size tippet/ leader were you rockin man? I am thinking 16 lb but after seeing this post I may need to reconsider? Are redfish leader shy at all?

On Wednesday, October 21, 2015 at 2:03:35 PM UTC-6, Marek wrote:

Greg Moon is the man. I was down in NoLa in late April and he was still putting me on fish - ie March/April sucks for Red fishing.

 

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Subject: Re: {Tidal Potomac Fly Rodders} Re: Louisiana Redfish Trip

 

Nick, I had Friday 10/16 through Monday 10/19 booked, but only got to fish the 16th. Saturday had an outside chance of fishing, but my guide wasn't confident enough conditions would hold and didn't want to run me just to take me on a crappy boat ride. The entire previous week and most the rest of the month was supposedly fantastic weather. Seems like that always happens to me! We didn't run into any jacks, but most of the schools of reds we found were not in locations jacks would generally go. And you didn't miss out on much with the black drum. It's cool to catch one or two, but they just don't fight hard. 10lb red fights better than a 30 lb black. Nonetheless, I can't wait to go back. My guide was already booked up for all but one day of October 2016 (so I took that), and I've already booked up my 4 day 2017 trip for this time next year.

On Wed, Oct 21, 2015 at 2:29 PM, Nick F - Gaucho Fly <nfran...@gmail.com> wrote:

Great to hear you were just down that and had so much success. I wonder if we overlapped on any of the days or spots as a friend and I also fished NOLA last week with Doug Henson of Saltedflycharters and also had some epic fishing for a couple of those days, before weather rolled in. Though we did not get into any quantity of black drum we did get some shots at lots of reds and jacks, including this one and another that broke off on the hook set. As they say, always a good idea to check your leader after each fish caught...  Overall just an incredible fishery that everyone should try.  Nothing like watching 10 angry bull reds battling over a top-water fly or picking up the lone cruiser along a marsh edge.  Highly recommend adding this trip on the bucket list and surprisingly convenient to pull off considering the quality of the fishery. 

 



On Monday, October 19, 2015 at 6:24:09 PM UTC-4, Jeff Silvan wrote:

I had a four day trip booked to stick some redfish in the marshes of Louisiana with Greg Moon of Louisiana Fly Fishing Charters. Unfortunately, the weather didn't cooperate, and the wind picked up too hard to fish the last 3 of the 4 days. BUT, the one day I got on the water was nothing short of phenomenal. In fact, the best day of fishing I have ever had, period. We lost count of the redfish after the first couple, but I wound up with somewhere around 20 or 25 redfish plus two black drum. I caught one "baby" fish that was about 12 lbs, one fish in the upper teens, and all the rest were in the 20 lb range, with the average being about 25 lbs and a few creeping close to 30 lbs. This time of year, the fish school up like crazy. We got into a school of thousands upon thousands of black drum, with some redfish scattered in it. In the picture "7056" you can see all the white spots in the water - those are all fish. Acres of them. This was one of two schools we fished all day. You quikcly stopped bothering fishing the black drum because they aren't nearly as excited. The second school we fished had far more reds in it. Towards the end of the day, I stopped even casting to fish that I didn't think had a shot to break 30. Absolutely unreal fishing. With how bruised and tired I was from day 1, I can't imagine was it would've been like it the weather held for me.

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Justin Schiavone

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Thanks Jeff. Awesome post btw, those are some friggen pigs.

On Wednesday, January 20, 2016 at 11:13:15 AM UTC-7, Jeff Silvan wrote:
Definitely not leader shy. They usually use 30lb test, but if the client requests they'll use lighter. If you want to try to stick a fly rod record, you can't use more than 20lb tippet anyway.
On Wed, Jan 20, 2016 at 12:54 PM, Justin Schiavone <justin.m....@gmail.com> wrote:
What size tippet/ leader were you rockin man? I am thinking 16 lb but after seeing this post I may need to reconsider? Are redfish leader shy at all?

On Wednesday, October 21, 2015 at 2:03:35 PM UTC-6, Marek wrote:

Greg Moon is the man. I was down in NoLa in late April and he was still putting me on fish - ie March/April sucks for Red fishing.

 

From: tidal-potoma...@googlegroups.com [mailto:tidal-potomac-fly-rod...@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of Jeffrey Silvan
Sent: Wednesday, October 21, 2015 2:45 PM
To: tidal-potoma...@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: {Tidal Potomac Fly Rodders} Re: Louisiana Redfish Trip

 

Nick, I had Friday 10/16 through Monday 10/19 booked, but only got to fish the 16th. Saturday had an outside chance of fishing, but my guide wasn't confident enough conditions would hold and didn't want to run me just to take me on a crappy boat ride. The entire previous week and most the rest of the month was supposedly fantastic weather. Seems like that always happens to me! We didn't run into any jacks, but most of the schools of reds we found were not in locations jacks would generally go. And you didn't miss out on much with the black drum. It's cool to catch one or two, but they just don't fight hard. 10lb red fights better than a 30 lb black. Nonetheless, I can't wait to go back. My guide was already booked up for all but one day of October 2016 (so I took that), and I've already booked up my 4 day 2017 trip for this time next year.

On Wed, Oct 21, 2015 at 2:29 PM, Nick F - Gaucho Fly <nfran...@gmail.com> wrote:

Great to hear you were just down that and had so much success. I wonder if we overlapped on any of the days or spots as a friend and I also fished NOLA last week with Doug Henson of Saltedflycharters and also had some epic fishing for a couple of those days, before weather rolled in. Though we did not get into any quantity of black drum we did get some shots at lots of reds and jacks, including this one and another that broke off on the hook set. As they say, always a good idea to check your leader after each fish caught...  Overall just an incredible fishery that everyone should try.  Nothing like watching 10 angry bull reds battling over a top-water fly or picking up the lone cruiser along a marsh edge.  Highly recommend adding this trip on the bucket list and surprisingly convenient to pull off considering the quality of the fishery. 

 



On Monday, October 19, 2015 at 6:24:09 PM UTC-4, Jeff Silvan wrote:

I had a four day trip booked to stick some redfish in the marshes of Louisiana with Greg Moon of Louisiana Fly Fishing Charters. Unfortunately, the weather didn't cooperate, and the wind picked up too hard to fish the last 3 of the 4 days. BUT, the one day I got on the water was nothing short of phenomenal. In fact, the best day of fishing I have ever had, period. We lost count of the redfish after the first couple, but I wound up with somewhere around 20 or 25 redfish plus two black drum. I caught one "baby" fish that was about 12 lbs, one fish in the upper teens, and all the rest were in the 20 lb range, with the average being about 25 lbs and a few creeping close to 30 lbs. This time of year, the fish school up like crazy. We got into a school of thousands upon thousands of black drum, with some redfish scattered in it. In the picture "7056" you can see all the white spots in the water - those are all fish. Acres of them. This was one of two schools we fished all day. You quikcly stopped bothering fishing the black drum because they aren't nearly as excited. The second school we fished had far more reds in it. Towards the end of the day, I stopped even casting to fish that I didn't think had a shot to break 30. Absolutely unreal fishing. With how bruised and tired I was from day 1, I can't imagine was it would've been like it the weather held for me.

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Ashley Frohwein

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For what it's worth, I recently got into some reds while kayak fishing the backcountry mud flats during low tide in Jacksonville. Although it was probably unnecessary, I got mine on 12lb fluoro tippet tied to the end of a 9ft, 16 lb fluoro leader (for a total length of ~10.5'). Again, it was probably unnecessary (and Jeff's right that they're not leader shy, although I imagine that might change if they're in really low and clear water). But the biggest red I caught was ~24 inches; had it been bigger, I may have regretted my decision. As you probably know, it's really important to get a hard strip set with reds; 12lb surprisingly didn't prevent me at all from doing this. (Also, 12lb was totally fine for the many decent but not huge sea trout I caught in FL, too.)

 I really think you'd be fine with 16lb (which is the most I'll be using next time). 

Justin Schiavone

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Nice dude. I think 16 will be okay too. Appreciate the feedback!

Connor Donovan

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No need for a long leader either especially if you are sight fishing up close and personal.   I went on a trip in December and our guide made some 5-6 foot leaders of 50/50 40lbs to 20lbs sections.  But it probably depends on what state/area you're fishing too.  I've heard FL reds can get pretty leader shy.

But if you're using fluorocarbon, it doesn't hurt to go heavier. 
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Ashley Frohwein

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I think that's right (no need for a longer leader). I was just in uber-paranoid, I've gotta catch a red no matter what mode. I left nothing to chance. (Plus, I was also fishing for trout, and wanted a longer leader to get flies deeper on a floating line.)

Here's a good video from Capt. Rich Santos - who is big in the Jax redfish FF game - about how to construct your own leader for reds: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Rhwmad16ZnY

I'm not saying his word should be taken as gospel, but dude def knows how to get into some reds.

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Ahh..   this town aint big enough for another guy named Rich from the Bronx who knows what he’s talking about in the fly fishing world… 

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Nice. I have a flouro tapered leader left over from the salt, 16 lb, that I will probably use. I'm bring along some heavy, shitty mono that I use for butt sections and grab a spool of 20 flouro probably. As far as streamer fishing goes- even for trout- I think the two section, and sometimes three section, leaders are all you need.

That dude in the video throws 15-20 tippet though, so I think I may be in a good position with the 16. If I break any off I'll surely update this feed. I was surprised at the surgeon knots he used, and not a blood not. If anyone ties their own leaders you know what a challenge the tags pose when casting, especially in bigger diameters. Blood knots are just cleaner..

Let's talk flies. I saw the brown whistler was mentioned. I googled it, and a few patterns popped up. Is it the crazy Charlie style all brown? Right now I have crabs..  I have some those sideways crabs, weighted crabs, and snowhites redfish crab. I've got some crazy charlies, and some basic shrimp patterns. Clousers,  and some tarpon style streamers that maybe will work? I don't know.. What else should I tie up?


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Jeffrey Silvan

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When are you going? If mullet are around, throw some of that. A

Justin Schiavone

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Nice. I'll have to look up the viable baitfish. I'm going in two weekends. Corpis Christy Texas. I'm not a salt guy so bare with me..

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Connor Donovan

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Check out Yank's Assassin.  That fly in rootbeer/rusty color absolutely killed it on my trip. 

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Hahahaha, Rich #1.

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I don't have much time now to talk flies (I will later, and will post), but if you're going anytime soon, I'd probably NOT chuck crabs and/or spoon flies this time of year. In Jax at least, the crabs mostly all hibernate once the water drops to ~65 degrees, although there are a few mud crabs. I'd focus on shrimp, baitfish, and clousers. And of course different weights for each, depending on the depth of the water you'll be going for them reds in. Some brown tarpon flies work well.


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Ashley Frohwein

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I'd mainly want black and/or brown clousers, and kwan shrimp. 

The supreme hair shrimp fly has worked well for me.

There's also a chance topwater flies, like a gurgler shrimp, could be helpful.

Justin Schiavone

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Awesome. I have some more tying to do. Out of curiosity, why is brown so productive?

I have some poppers to finish up and to add that top water buffet, as well. I'm obviously hoping that top water will be helpful.

Thanks all,

Justin

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Match the hatch for baitfish/crabs that are on the muddy bottom.

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Miles

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I like the Sili/Softy Spoon for reds. It's a good fly for muddy water, or if you can't sight fish - but it also works for sight fishing. Snowhite has a tutorial: http://flyfishingconsultant.blogspot.com/2011/06/miless-silispoon-fly.html

Justin Schiavone

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Thanks I got a fair amount of general patterns to work with and dial it in when I'm in Corpus Christi. Thanks for the hell everyone.

Miles, I know you do buddy. You've got your own bloody pattern! Unfortunately no Orvis are around, so a generic soft spoon it is.

Tight lines y'all,

J

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Jeffrey Silvan

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Great pics, Justin. The weather can turn like nothing down there. Glad you had a backup plan. I've booked a total of about 15 days on the marsh and I think I've actually fished 6.

On Thu, Feb 11, 2016 at 11:12 PM, Justin Schiavone <justin.m....@gmail.com> wrote:
Hey y'all so THANK YOU for all the scoop. Unfortunately what looked like a promising red fish trip tired to shit when a front suddenly moved in. Barely got to fish before having to head in..

Fortunately I headed north and fucked shit up on the Guadalupe tailwater for some twout.. See attached

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Justin Schiavone

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Haha thanks man I will repost I was drinking last night which lead to some interesting phrasing that I'm sure you picked up on. ***Don't drink and blog. For your health.

Anyway, The Guadalupe was on fire too so no worry, just kind of stunk loosing my shirt on the guide service that probably should have been canceled. And I did have some shots but the fish just wouldn't eat. Nothing I could do.


Guadalupe :

Day one was a fifty plus day; however, only two decent fish. They seemed to all be 8-10 inch rainbows, with little deviation. Big nymphs were the ticket. Black stone flies in fact. Interesting enough I was able to throw dries once the shade hit the water. Took a few on a pmd. Current seems were gnarly so the reach cast was very necessary. Quite tricky but sweeter the victory.

Day two yielded a good number of bigger fish. (I found a better trophy section) They were on a size 22 black midges, zebra midge with all black ribbing. A few ate the soft hackle caddies attractor fly. Deep, with three big spit shot.

Nymphing is such a pain but it yielded so whatever.

Good times.

Sorry if any yunz caught the r rated version.

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TurbineBlade

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There's that battenkill -- "zee-zee-zeeeeee"  ;)

Gene

Justin Schiavone

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Nice eye mane Swing Genie, click and pawls are the only way to fish.

TurbineBlade

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I enjoy your posts Justin -- well, and I also enjoy Jeff's since they often involve the catching of large fish by sight...which is very challenging and awesome.  

You've inspired me to dig my battenkill out and pair it up with that ff706.  It balances well on that short rod.  Honestly, my "better" access reel kept freezing up earlier (requiring a periodic dunk into the warm water discharge).  Those clickers are really, really simple things.  They also let everyone in earshot know that you've hooked a fish, so long as it is over 12" or so.  I guess that could be good or bad but in my case it would usually be Beth.  

Gene

Justin Schiavone

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Thanks man. Great dig that puppy up. I'll agree with you on the simplicity making way for a better performance in a frigid environment. I've had it freeze up but not very often. I think they are great because they are so light, plus playing big fish is a challenge. I won't lie I've lost some big fish getting used to palming, but what a hoot. And like bob says, tougher the battle sweeter jah victory.

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