Gene what is it?

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Brian Randolph

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May 24, 2016, 9:59:31 PM5/24/16
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Gene, saw this in Reston today and all my Facebook friends want to know! I was thinking water snake but it's not as brown as they usually are. you are the expert!
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Rob Snowhite

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May 24, 2016, 10:42:35 PM5/24/16
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If Miles was there he'd have grabbed that snake.

Crikey

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Carl Z.

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May 24, 2016, 11:42:02 PM5/24/16
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It is no longer hungry.

Carl

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2016-05-24 21:59 GMT-04:00 Brian Randolph <brianr...@hotmail.com>:
Gene, saw this in Reston today and all my Facebook friends want to know!  I was thinking water snake but it's not as brown as they usually are. you are the expert!

TurbineBlade

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May 25, 2016, 4:09:49 AM5/25/16
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Nerodia.....something or other. (formerly Natrix spp.);)

In Missouri I would say Nerodia sipedon and 99% of the time it would be correct, but this ain't Missouri and there are a few other species in this region.  It also doesn't help that their pattern and coloration can vary within the species.  

In any case it's a harmless watersnake doing its thing.  Beth and I startled 6-7 of them a couple of weekends ago in the canoe.  

Gene



On Tuesday, May 24, 2016 at 10:42:35 PM UTC-4, Rob Snowhite wrote:
If Miles was there he'd have grabbed that snake.

Crikey

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> Gene, saw this in Reston today and all my Facebook friends want to know!  I was thinking water snake but it's not as brown as they usually are. you are the expert!
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TurbineBlade

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May 25, 2016, 4:13:20 AM5/25/16
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Miles would have been bitten and crapped upon, with almost 100% certainty ;).  For whatever reason, Nerodia seem to pretty much bite as a knee-jerk reaction to being grasped.  

Black rat snakes are a 50/50 grab bag; some of them bite instantly, and others just kind of tolerate it.  Like this guy who I caught pursuing chipmunks under the deck -- 

Gene

On Tuesday, May 24, 2016 at 10:42:35 PM UTC-4, Rob Snowhite wrote:
If Miles was there he'd have grabbed that snake.

Crikey

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> On May 24, 2016, at 9:59 PM, Brian Randolph <brianr...@hotmail.com> wrote:
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> Gene, saw this in Reston today and all my Facebook friends want to know!  I was thinking water snake but it's not as brown as they usually are. you are the expert!
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TurbineBlade

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May 25, 2016, 4:17:18 AM5/25/16
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Impressive cranial kinesis BTW -- ;)

Note that as a result, snakes have very little musculature to use to "bite".  They basically just throw their head (and teeth) at you.  

namfos

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May 25, 2016, 4:06:11 PM5/25/16
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Always a fascinating process to watch.

Mark

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